lighthound 
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
|
Well... I guess it's nice to know that no one hit the "OMG! My eyes" option at least. 
sbeme wrote:
the structures seem to angle this way and that, most strongly in the first.
For me the third has the best balance overall. First plays as foreground as main subject given its size, dominance. Second feels a bit more balanced, but my eye wants to go to the red building and flowing water, which seem relatively small. With a bit more water, foreground, third would stand out even more for me
Scott
Thanks Scott. I see the angle variances from one to the next you mentioned and have tried to correct this.
Below is a rework of #3 with more FG water added. Pretty much all I got to work with there. Let me know if that's what you had in mind.
Dave
---------------------------------------------
Shasoc wrote:
I like the first and last best. I like the rich, warm colors. The second shot seems to have a slight magenta cast. I also like the angle in the first, however, as Scott said the foreground is a bit overpowering and distracting. may be cropping out some on the bottom and the left you can make the image more balanced.
Socrate
P.S. Have you tried any vert composition of that site?
Thanks Socrate. I don't see the magenta cast but I believe you that it's there. I might have caused that myself because I attempted to selectively "cool" some areas the looked way too warm to my eyes. With all the fall "warm" colors, these type of images are very difficult for me so I relied on the white water and some of the white trim to set the WB. And even at that it was rather hard due to the lighting and shadows.
Dave
---------------------------------------------
Rick Joyce wrote:
Three major elements in image 2 form a natural triangulated composition leading the eye boldly from the building to the rocks at left centre to brightly coloured leaves at bottom.
Thank you Rick! Finally someone "got it". 
I went through great pains to get into that position to try and use the rocks and waterfalls ledge (left wall) as lead-in lines to guide the viewers eyes into and over to the Mill and falls.
I apparently missed the mark though as it sounds like the rock mass is overpowering the image rather than guiding the eyes into the scene.
Dave
---------------------------------------------
RustyBug wrote:
+1 @ much of Scott and the others.
Took a swing at the skew and crop working off #3. That roofline was killin' me. 
I think the question becomes what your desired message is.
A) Here's the mill
#3
B) Here's where the mill was built
#2
#1
#3 supports A, while #1 & #2 support B.
If your message is B), then I'd look to adjust the amount of mass of the foreshortening FG as it does dominate a bit much. Cool stuff, but when it is THAT dominant, the message becomes "Look at the big honkin' rock ... never mind the other crap in the pic." Some judicious re-weighting / re-balancing (modified #1) might be in order depending on how you want that relationship to be conveyed.
Of course, if your desired message IS
C) Look at the big honkin' rock, how cool is that. 
#1
Just kinda depends on what you're tryin' to say to folks.
Also, moody things like "serenity" vs. "arduous", "rugged" or "isolated" also play into what the role of your FG / foreshortening will play.
Bust out the "telephone game" and make the call to Jeff @ "Dude, you gotta see this ..." and see where it is that you want it to go. If you message is serenity, etc. that takes you one place. If it is bad-ass rock formation and the emotion associated with getting there ... that's a different place.
As always, your message, your pic, your call ... you gotta know what you're tryin' to say to your viewer(s), whether that is you as the viewer, or others as viewer(s).
Just straighten that dang roof line (at least a little bit). 
NOTE: Working off the small jpg (better @ full size file), things got kinda fuzzy with the amount of skew involved, so some atypical USM was in order to attempt the fuzz-fest offset (artifacts & color shifts be darned). But, hopefully you get the gist @ a few to tickle the brain fodder.
...Show more →
Thanks Kent. I did try to ask myself what the message is with these which is why I ended up with 3 different comps. They all say something a little different or at least in a different way I think. They are all about the Shoals Creek and the Mill. I get what you are saying about the message but what I was curious about is simply which composition is the most visually pleasing to the viewer. I think I understand what your saying about the the mood and had considered doing some adjustments in post to # 1 to take it into almost a painterly direction to both reduce the impact of the fg rock in your face thing as well as play up on the ruggedness appearance. I might do some more playing with that one because I spent a good amount of time trying to get that comp. Even though it's not seen by most a good comp, I can't give up on that one yet.
Now that roof line thing. Sorry dude, I'm not a carpenter and I didn't feel like crawling up there to fix it before I shot it. Seriously though, it is a really messed up structure and because of it being so out of kilter in some areas I had a heck of a time figuring out any rotational adjustments. Lens distortion did not cause what you are seeing.
And for a phone call to Jeff while on scene. Ummm... Maybe not. I can't really type those kinds of words here. This is a PG rated forum and the conversation probably would have been something to the effect of
"Dude! you need to see this .....ing place! It's so ....ing cool and it has this really kick .... rock wall and killer ....ing long rocks leading into the ....ing water.. and ....
Yeah, Jeff brings out the NY yankee in me. 
Dave
---------------------------------------------
ben egbert wrote:
2 by a longshot. For me it's all about color. The floating leaves in the foreground make this one a standout.
Thanks Ben! I kinda thought that one might work best for you. I have some head scratching to do to figure out which of these to print after making some adjustments. I might try something a little out there on #1 image but I doubt it will go over very well here.
Dave
Image 3 rework added back more FG water
|
