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deterpawson09
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Hello Nikon-eers,
I'm not very happy with my D7000. Firstly the auto focus gives some problems especially in low light. Secondly it over exposes consistently for which i compensate because i'm in manual mode, by either flash exp compensation or A/S/ISO. Also there is a problem shooting flash in TTL as well, maybe its not metering properly or something, so i compensate there as well, and now because i know how my camera behaves i can rectify it rather quickly. However when i use flash in TTL my images fluctuate a far bit even if pretty much in the same spot.
Also in Aperture Priority my images are over exposed by sometimes 3/4-1 full stop so i use it rarely but sometimes i just have to. It behaves similarly in Shutter mode as well.

Was looking at used D700 ( 800-1000 with decent shutter count ) or a used D7100 ( 600-700 ) ??
I have a 50D1.8 / Tamron 24-70 2.8 / nikon 70-300
I like shooting portrais but also shoot WIDE variety of stuff like table top / scenery / pets . Gonna try some birds as well.
I personally would like the D700 but it is rather old now.
Kindly share your thoughts so that i get new ides.
I thank you advance for any comments.
Happy Shooting

Pete

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Jan 21, 2017 at 11:26 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Upgrade from a D7000


Stay away from a D7100 AF sucks/buffer sucks. The D7200's a better way to go
for the $ 600-700 you're willing to spend. FWIW, I made bank with the D7K's thru
ISO6400 shooting bands in cave-like venues. Can't help with flash, never use 'em.
If you're considering FX find a D600 for that price range, kills the D700's 12MPs.
(none of your lenses are known for blistering AF...just sayin')



Jan 21, 2017 at 11:41 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Upgrade from a D7000


I'm with Trench here. After getting a D500 I couldn't bear to use my D7100 in low light. Sold it and got a refurb D7200 for back up camera. As well as improved high ISO (primarily in SOOC jpeg), focusing is improved and of course you have that deeper buffer as well.


Jan 21, 2017 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Upgrade from a D7000


I find this one rather interesting. I used the D7000 quite a bit and my daughter uses it now. we get really good results overall in a lot of varied conditions.

like trenchmonkey I have had little issue shooting in any way. I generally push the camera till I find my personal limit. in this camera it was pretty far.

should have put this up last week I had some doings up by you and I was staying right by the Scarborough Centre

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Jan 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Upgrade from a D7000


+1 for Will. D7200 or D600 would be great. D7200 for BIF is better.


Jan 21, 2017 at 01:36 PM
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deterpawson09 wrote:
Secondly it over exposes consistently for which i compensate because i'm in manual mode, by either exp compensation or A/S/ISO. Also there is a problem shooting flash in TTL as well, maybe its not metering properly or something, so i compensate there as well, and now because i know my camera behaves i getting faster at using my dials. But it is a hassle and at times do get improperly exposed images.

Pete


Hi Pete,

The D7000 exposure system works about as well as any other Nikon DSLR. It is possible your body needs an adjustment yet with what you wrote I'm not ready to accept this.

- "i'm in manual mode"
In manual exposure mode, you are completely responsible for exposure.

- "either exp compensation or A/S/ISO"
Exposure compensation dose not effect exposure in manual mode. it will effect TTL flash results. exposure compensation is usualy used with auto exposure modes (aperture priority, shutter priority, program)

- "Also there is a problem shooting flash in TTL as well"
Besides what I've listed above, the built in flash has very little range. External flash will do much better. You did not state which. It is very important to match your flash mode to the metering mode when using TTL flash. Check your body manual for details if using the onboard flash. Also check your flash manual if using external.

Before replacing your camera, I suggest you post samples of the problems you are having and include the exif data and the people hear can help you work out the issues.

Morris



Jan 21, 2017 at 02:17 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Upgrade from a D7000


So sorry to hear my D7100 is such a lousy camera. Sad to hear that all my photos suffer from lousy AF and a sadly lacking buffer.

My poor obsolete D700 is 5 years old. Will and I are far older than that. Maybe we need to be crushed into itty bitty pieces and thrown in a landfill. At least digital gave the camera companies a reason to jump on the automaker bandwagon and come up with a new model every year or so.

Meanwhile, the D700 and D7100, both "elderly" cameras still work very well for me.



Jan 21, 2017 at 02:38 PM
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a typical stylized response I love it.


Jan 21, 2017 at 06:37 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Upgrade from a D7000


I think one of the points was that for $800 a d600/d610 is a better choice than an old d700 for the most part. I sure hope all of us here are much older than the d700!

For BIF the d7100 is pretty handicapped. Does it work? Yes. Does it have good AF and IQ? Undoubtedly. But for
Not much more money ($200) you can get the superior in almost every way d7200. So why wouldn't someone go that route? Kind of a no brainer for the d7200.



Jan 21, 2017 at 11:01 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Upgrade from a D7000


If you like shooting wide open, go FX and get a used d610 for dirt cheap. AF will be a little better, but not by much. I really didn't like the d7000 when I had it


Jan 22, 2017 at 01:15 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Upgrade from a D7000


D7000 are great little cameras , it was my first and I loved it, after using it for a few years and getting used to its less than fast AF I its served me well. I upgraded a few days ago to a D500, after trying both 7100 and 7200 I felt the D500 only gave me the worthwhile improvements I wanted


Jan 22, 2017 at 03:45 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Upgrade from a D7000


If you're not in a big hurry you could wait 3-4 months and the D7200 successor
will probably be released. Around that time the price of a new D7200 will most
likely drop to around what the D7100 sells for right now.

That's my plan anyways...

Unless of course you've got your heart set on a FF...

But I do agree with those who like the D7k. I have no plans to get rid of mine,
simply to add a D7.2K body to the stable...



Jan 22, 2017 at 08:36 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Upgrade from a D7000


Really WOW i live like 10 mins away from Scarborough Town Centre (sjms) Hope you enjoyed the city and its offerings. This weekend the fog was incredible but i was busy doing other stuff and did not capitalize on the amazing-ness. Thanks for the replies and yup your right i will post my images to see if i need to adjust my settings to achieve what i want. Firm believer in looking at oneself before laying blame. And i still love my D7000. Most of my problems occur during events, like a wedding anniversary, in which i use TTL on my SB700 + Tamron 24-70/2.If i am doing something incorrectly im sure somebody here will give me some good advice to improve my photog. Besides if i then sell the camera the problem will just move with me right coz i have not taken the time to improve.

PRICES here in Toronto KIJIJI
D7100 used 600-800
D7200 used 900-1100
D700 used 800-1000
D600 used 900+
D610 used 1100 +

Pete
Just got an offer for D700 with 59k with shutter count for $650 Cdn. on Kijiji
OH crap DOH !!! dunno how to upload my file the upload button is grayed out (help) now i feel like Dumbo

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Jan 22, 2017 at 09:45 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Upgrade from a D7000


The autofocus on a D600 is pretty weak, nowhere near either D7100 or D7200. It might be the same one as on the D7000.


Kent in SD



Jan 22, 2017 at 09:53 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Upgrade from a D7000


The 2008 D700 is ancient. A used D610 would be a better choice. For anything but landscapes a DX camera offers very real advantages over a full frame camera. The 24-70mm will provide more flattering perspectives on a DX camera than on a FX camera. Macro is better done with a DX 24MP camera. Bird photography benefits greatly from having a D7100 or D7200.

A D700 provides less than 8MP at a DX crop as compared to 24MP with your D7000. That is a considerable difference. The autofocus of the D7xxx cameras is also far better than that of the D700 (or D3 for that matter). A used D7200 can be bought for $700 and is a camera that will provide years of use and excellent image quality and great autofocus performance.



Jan 24, 2017 at 01:52 AM
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elkhornsun wrote:
A D700 provides less than 8MP at a DX crop as compared to 24MP with your D7000. That is a considerable difference. The autofocus of the D7xxx cameras is also far better than that of the D700 (or D3 for that matter). A used D7200 can be bought for $700 and is a camera that will provide years of use and excellent image quality and great autofocus performance.


This is really in need of clarity.

D700 DX crop is 5MP
D7000 is only 16MP, not 24MP.
The AF on D7000 is vastly inferior to that of D700 (personal experience).
D7200 AF is better than that of D700, from what I've read. D7100 less so and has a worse buffer than both D7000 and D700.

I would add, D700 auto WB is worse than that of the D7000. I expect D7100/D7200 to be just as good.

In the shoes of the OP, I'll seriously be looking at the D7200.




Jan 24, 2017 at 07:35 AM
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a shot done in less then perfect conditions w/D7000 and Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4







Jan 24, 2017 at 09:26 AM
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I had a couple D7000s over the years as primary/secondary/backup bodies. They were mostly fine tools, but in general I prefer the AF on the D7100 as well as the minor differences in button arrangement. Really though, they aren't worlds apart. Good files off of both sensors.

I'm not sure what you'll get for your D7000 if you sell it, but I am skeptical that the incremental gains from the D7100 would be worth making the jump. D7200 is probably the smart buy right now for getting better low-light performance, better DR & IQ at both ends of the ISO spectrum, and better AF as well. If you insist on an FX body, D600 is a better buy than a D610 all day. For half a FPS and slightly less stigma about the sensor oil scandal (which Nikon will repair free of charge for the life of the camera should it be a problem), there is no difference in performance and only a savings in money.

Sure the D700/D7000/D7100 all can make pretty pictures still, but the gains in capability from a D7200 would probably be most beneficial.




Jan 24, 2017 at 10:27 AM
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The d7000 is a fine camera that can produce excellent shots. Concerning the issue you have I would first check the advanced metering setting in the menus and make sure no exposure compensation has been set for any of the metering modes. If you got the camera used someone may have tweaked these settings.

It could also just be the lighting dynamic of the shots you are taking. If there is a lot of dark or black areas the camera will up the exposure and vise versa. I found most of the shots I was getting from my d7100 also seemed over exposed. I dialed in -0.3 ev and was much happier with the output. However, if I view the same images in lightroom and click auto tone. It bumps up the exposure and the images look too bright. To me this meant LR was seeing the lighting of my images similar to my camera. So there was likely not a problem with my cameras metering.

The camera, set correctly, tries to give you the best exposure for the entire area you are metering. So if you spot meter on a black hat your subject is wearing on a sunny day you could expect the rest of the image to appear overexposed.




Jan 24, 2017 at 10:43 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Upgrade from a D7000


Thank you 'peoples' for your advice.I would like to post an image or 2 with the metadata so you could visual see what im getting. My UPLOAD icon is grayed out BooHoo !!! But for now i will hold off on selling the D7000 and keep and eye out for a good deal on a D7200. It looks like these APS-C cameras have really bumped up their image quality. and having that 1.5 crop length surely helps.
Enjoy your day and cheers



Jan 24, 2017 at 11:29 AM
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