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Archive 2017 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!

  
 
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Here is one example of what a 5D III can do on rocketing sharp-tailed grouse!



Jan 19, 2017 at 04:36 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


I shoot mostly birds, and between my 5DIII and 7DII, I use the latter about 90% of the time. AF is great, 10 fps, extra reach when focal length limited (like having a free 1.5x TC compared to the 5DIII) and noise is manageable.


Jan 19, 2017 at 06:30 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


razuto22 wrote:
so if I were to use this for wildlife, you don't see too many problems with getting the 5D M3?


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No, I used mine for everything for a year including BIF and then only slowed down after getting a 1DX as I find the 1 series a better camera for my style of shooting.

razuto22 wrote:
That's what I have been understanding now. I just always assumed that a higher FPS was better for fast moving objects.


A higher FPS gives you more frames in a second...that means you might have a better chance of catching that perfect wing position or catching the perfect head angle or the moment the ball hits the bat. However, 6FPS is still very good and most recently I was doing 50% of my bird and wildlife shooting with the 5DSR that is only 5FPS and usually slows to 3-4FPS due to certain factors (ISO, battery life, etc). I have 1000s of wildlife images even with that slow camera. Problems you mention in the original post about blurry images are from poor technique (i.e. tracking the bird) or too slow of a SS....more FPS won't help that at all.
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razuto22 wrote:
I have the 24-105 f/4 though. Is that better? Also, I most likely won't be doing BIF (although who knows? It'd certainly make a cool shot)...Can I still get a decent photo of fast moving shots with the 5D M3?


Yes you can, I will post a bunch of images later tonight to prove that you can get great shots with 5D3...I've got F1 cars, I've got BIF and I've got animals (although unless its a cheetah I don't think any camera would have a problem with animals). And I've got 10s of 1000s of them.

I've owned basically every Canon DSLR since the 7D....I will say that I would never choose the 7D2 over the 5D3 unless I was shooting fast BIF (say raptors, swallows, ducks(maybe)) all the time and in good enough light to have SS at 1/1600 and ISO at 800 or less. Otherwise, for any other type of shooting I would use the 5D3 all the time.

I sold my 7D2....I haven't replaced it yet and don't regret selling it for a second. There are people who love the 7D2 but there are also a lot of members on here who have years of wildlife experience who have found the 7D2 to be the biggest headache of a camera (because of sporadic and bipolar AF) that we've ever used.

I really wouldn't recommend the 7D2 to anyone at this point in time. I'd actually recommend Nikon D500 and 200-500 as a birding setup for BIF and other birds/wildlife but that isn't your main interest either so I'd ignore that option also.



Jan 19, 2017 at 08:26 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


have you thought about selling a few things and getting a 5DIII and a used 7D? A like new 7D can be had for around $400 it's not too far off the 7DII. This would give you both bodies, one for sports and one for portraits.

Or you could go 5DII and 7DII if you prefer but I would suggest 5DIII and used 7D.



Jan 19, 2017 at 08:59 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Thank you for the advice!


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:36 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Thank you so much for your wisdom! I truly appreciate in depth advice like this. I think I'm probably going to get the 5D M3...Do you think I should go used?


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:37 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Thanks for the advice!


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:40 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Ya, I figured that I could get longer glass and an extension as well for the 5D3


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:41 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Looks good to me! Which lens?


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:41 PM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


But if birds in flight is not my main thing...a 5D3 would be perfectly fine right?


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:42 PM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Thank you so much for your help! I'm looking forward to those photos!!


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:45 PM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


I have thought about using multiple cameras, but I kind of just want to have one...it's a bit easier to manage in my opinion.


Jan 19, 2017 at 09:46 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


5D3 is in general better but the 1D4 might be a perfect compromise if you value it's advantages.


Jan 19, 2017 at 10:01 PM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


I'll take a look. Thank you!


Jan 19, 2017 at 10:06 PM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


razuto22 wrote:
I have thought about using multiple cameras, but I kind of just want to have one...it's a bit easier to manage in my opinion.


There are loads of reasons for having more than one camera, the failure of one on an important job is just one. The ability to have a tool more suited to a particular job is another, there are many more



Jan 20, 2017 at 03:16 AM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


I had both and eventually sold the 7D2. Even for wildlife and flying birds, the more reliable AF of the 5D3 more than made up for the reach and FPS of the 7D2, at least for me. I got a lot more keepers from the 5D3.


Jan 20, 2017 at 03:39 AM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Here are some football shots that shows the 5D3's sports capabilities. Couple that with it's wildlife capabilities and you have a winner.






















Jan 23, 2017 at 07:13 PM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


I have shot the 7D2 and 5D3 for NBA events, and the only advantage I found between the two was the 5D3 cleaner high ISO. Other than that, the 7D2 AF system was very good for sports, and I never had any sporadic AF issues with my copy. I really enjoyed having the 5D3, but when the rumors about the 5D4 came out, I sold it and went solely with the 7D2 until I got a 5D4. Lovely camera btw...

ISO 12800, cropped and post processed:








Jan 23, 2017 at 10:28 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


Im often torn between my two (I have 7DII and 5DIII) I find 7DII auto-focus more accurate as opposed to the other way around

This is 5DIII lightly cropped with a 600mm lens

http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8664/28931156825_3c8f0cd767_b.jpg


This is 7DII heavily cropped with a 200 F4 lens

http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5533/30034731634_a6aae9c880_b.jpg


Landscape 7DII



http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8870/28384415850_0a19f4721a_b.jpg


landscape 5DIII



http://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7383/27839896886_547cb72fd6_b.jpg



they are both very good, but I feel I need the 7DII for wildlife and the occasional highspeed stuff



Mar 04, 2017 at 07:40 AM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · Canon 5D Mark III VS. Canon 7D Mark II? Help me choose!


If you have long enough glass to capture your wildlife, get the 5D III. The 7D II does have a marvelous frame rate and very good image quality, but I've seen some pretty convincing examples of the 5D III outperforming the 7D II in sports venues (again, with the proper lens).

You really won't go wrong with either camera, but the 5D III is, IMO, still a better camera overall and it is simply hard to beat a full frame sensor vs. 1.6X crop sensor.



Mar 04, 2017 at 08:49 AM
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