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evan47
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


What is the general opinion of the d500 and 200-500vr combination?
I am currently using the d7200 (sometimes d7100 too) with my 200-500vr and find it more than adequate for my needs at the moment (mostly static birds).
What I intend to do in the near future is to get more in to birds in flight so I am considering the d500 for its AF capabilities and frame rate.
How many of you have used both the d7200 and d500 with the 200-500vr and what is your opinion on the difference in image quality and AF performance between the two bodies?



Nov 27, 2016 at 01:51 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


Night and day difference. Pretty much common knowledge the
AF, focus lock, and frame rate are the best out there for DX reach.
IQ very close to the D7200 but best IQ with the 200-500 is a D810.



Nov 27, 2016 at 02:36 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


Thanks Will.
It is just a pipe dream at the moment and I will likely leave it until the new year before my final decision.
How are you finding the battery life on the d500?



Nov 27, 2016 at 03:17 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


A tad less life than with my D810/D800/D600/D7200's that
all use the EN-EL15. No biggie, a spare in me pocket for long
sessions. I forego the grip on my D500/D810's as I just like 'em
as they are.



Nov 27, 2016 at 03:40 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


We just returned from six weeks in Australia / Singapore / Thailand / India. My wife's dream: BIF (Birds In Flight) at dawn and dusk.

She had her new D500 and 200-500. And because it was new, I (the Sherpa ) lugged the D800e and 500mm/f4 vr almost everywhere we went. (Not on the Daintree riverboat )

Let's just say, about 20k photos later, the 500mm and tripod only were used one time on the whole trip. The D800e *never*. Yes, she's happy.

Amazingly fast focus, 10 fps is incredible for BIF. It almost feels like cheating using that combination.



Nov 27, 2016 at 04:23 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


These two guys have summed it up pretty well. I have been shooting a 500 f4 for years and I am constantly amazed at the images this combo produces. Go for it!





D500, 200-500



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Nov 27, 2016 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


Hint on battery life: be sure you get En-EL15 batteries with Li-ion20 on the label, not Li-ion01. The latter are an older generation and appear to run out of juice too quickly in the D500.

Nikon WILL replace the older ones for free... nice for those of us who have them for earlier cameras.

https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/ni/NI_article?articleNo=000004779&configured=1&lang=en_US



Nov 27, 2016 at 07:28 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


^ Did that a few months ago...they'll do up to five 01's with
D500 (USA) Proof of Purchase Receipt.



Nov 28, 2016 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


Will. Do you find the focus speed of the d500/200-500vr any quicker than the d7200/500-200vr?


Nov 29, 2016 at 02:49 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


evan47 wrote:
Will. Do you find the focus speed of the d500/200-500vr any quicker than the d7200/500-200vr?


Sorry, just saw this
Yes indeed!



Dec 16, 2016 at 07:45 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


I'll chime in. The focus speed and hold of the D500 is another level from the D7xxx. It surpasses the D810 by a good margin. Funny a couple nights ago I threw a 35mm G on the D500 and at first I thought there was something wrong because I couldn't see it focusing. Then I realized it was focusing so quickly I didn't notice.


Dec 16, 2016 at 07:50 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


The biggest save on battery life is to put the D500 in "airplane mode" from the menu. I have gotten as many as 1800 shots on one charge.

I shot a ton of birds in flight with both the D7100 and D7200 before getting the D500. Yep, it's faster and more accurate. Don't expect miracles, of course, but you'll see the difference, for sure.



Dec 18, 2016 at 02:28 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


I have used the D7200 and D500 with the 200-500 and other lenses.

The photos below were taken at ISO 1600, f2.8, and 1/500. The same 70-200 lens mounted to the D500 and then the D7200. I think the IQ is identical, at least at these settings.

I assume the AF is better on the D500 however for what I shoot, both cameras work great.





© wgulker 2016


D500







D7200




Dec 18, 2016 at 03:13 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


The D500/200-500VR is a BIF machine...my keeper rate has gone through the roof and it's so good at 5.6 that I am leaving big primes at home sometimes without feeling "naked." Speed, tracking, accuracy...and I have not fine-tuned it.


Dec 19, 2016 at 12:09 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


Actually I'm shocked at how good the f5.6 is on the D500 in low light. When I'd normally have to switch to a f2.8. It's not a substitute but damn is it very good.


Dec 19, 2016 at 12:46 PM
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The D500 200-500mm VR combo is very capable. It can do more than you're asking for with stationary birds as you subject. I got some technically very challenging shots with it, usually with the first or second frame of a burst. For stationary birds, though, anything with a higher resolution sensor will deliver better IQ, as the main advantage of the D500 is speed. It's quite a good sensor, but a D810 is my preference if I don't need the FPS or extra reach of DX.

I've been in the market for a 400mm f/2.8 and D810, but since I tried a rental 200-500VR with D500 I've been rethinking my big lens plans. This zoom is the best bang for the buck long lens available right now. Yes, the super telephoto lenses are better, but in return the zoom is more versatile and dramatically cheaper. I know I will buy the 200-500mm, whereas I probably will just keep renting the big dollar glass for the few things I really need them for.

here's one of those AF winners I didn't expect to see with this lens: conditions were not ideal with line of sight across hot asphalt at about 50 yards distance to subject, D500 with TC-14e II on the 200-500mm VR for a full 1050mm effective FX focal length. Targets popped up from below the horizon at 100mph, then transitioned to hard braking. There is no way to pre-focus to that distance at this location to have the lens already prepped - nothing at all to lock on as the terrain drops off.

The lens/body combo got this in focus and tracking almost as quickly as I could react to the car appearing on the horizon. This was the first or second frame of this burst and it doesn't get any sharper under these conditions. Plenty of resolution in that D500 image to see stone chips in the paint and scratches in the headlight covers. Can't comment much on high ISO - I rarely ever go above ISO 400.

f/8.0 1/1250s ISO 250 with TC-14e II on monopod, no crop, single point AF


Angry eyes

As for D500 keeper rate with this lens was so good, I still have a few thousand frames from that race weekend that I never even looked at but know they are in focus.






Dec 19, 2016 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


The ease of capturing shots with a high degree of difficulty
seems to be this combos forte.







Dec 19, 2016 at 04:14 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


trenchmonkey wrote:
The ease of capturing shots with a high degree of difficulty
seems to be this combos forte.


Oh man that's dinner.



Dec 19, 2016 at 06:31 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


Has anyone compared the AF between the D810 and the D7200?


Dec 19, 2016 at 08:58 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · d500 and 200-500vr combo


Has anyone tried a 300 2.8 on the D500 yet. Would be interested in know the result So? Thanks


Dec 19, 2016 at 11:01 PM
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