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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


Might be interesting for retouching pros who spend hours in LR (if any use LR instead of PS). I'll stick with the Wacom/keyboard/mouse at this price.

http://petapixel.com/2016/11/02/loupedeck-new-console-photo-editing-lightroom/



Nov 02, 2016 at 10:42 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


Looks like this is now available and B&H has stock at $299 US.

Anyone have thoughts on this for editing efficiency? Is there anything else out there to help streamline the LR editing workflow? It seems you'll still need to use a mouse or tablet in order to make local edits, as well as a keyboard to access some of those, so the Loupedeck will be an additional item on the desk.



Aug 17, 2017 at 12:32 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


I opted for the Contour Design Shuttle-Xpress ($60 from B&H).

I purchased it to use as a jog/shuttle control for finite video/audio editing in Final Cut Pro X and Logic Pro X and was pleasantly surprised it also came with presets for Lightroom (which I customized to fit my personal workflow) and many other popular image processing apps ... as well as other popular apps even word processing. You can also customize the buttons and dials for just about any app. Even better, when you switch between apps, the supporting software recognizes the active app and adjusts the functionality of the Shuttle-Xpress on the fly. Very handy.

They also offer a Pro version for $99 with more buttons but i wanted to keep it simple. Which is why the Loupedeck and similar devices didn't seem to interest me. For the vast majority of work in Lr involves making adjustments to sliders, no reason to utilize a couple dozen buttons/sliders/dials when one will suffice.

The Shuttle-Xpress is like an oversized mouse that fits nicely just to the left of my keyboard and the mouse to the right. I move the mouse to hover the cursor over the slider of choice in the Develop module and dial in my setting with my left hand. I have the five buttons programed for shortcuts to swap views between grid/loupe, navigate between Develop and Library, etc. Works well for me and saved me a lot of money as well as space on my physical desktop/keyboard drawer. Cost ratio vs. time saved in average work session is through the roof.

Victoria Bampton (aka "The Lightroom Queen") uses the Pro version and has a blog posting about how she uses it in conjunction with a Wacom tablet.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/697104-REG/Contour_SXPRB_Shuttle_Xpress_NLE_Multimedia_Controller.html

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/gadgets-contour-shuttle-pro-wacom-tablet/



Aug 17, 2017 at 01:06 AM
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Thanks! Contour sounds promising. Is it necessary to hover the cursor over the slider to change the setting with Contour's dial? I thought I read in one of the comments of the article you linked by Brampton that it's possible to use the central dial to choose a slider in the Develop module and the outer dial to change the slider's setting's values.

I like the idea of it working with other apps too.



Aug 17, 2017 at 01:46 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


It depends on how you set it up. Using Victoria's method, you can toggle between the sliders in the Basic tab of the Develop module, though to invoke sliders in the other tabs you have to use the cursor hover method which works for ANY slider in Lightroom. Rather than use two different methods, I use the hover method for all adjustments.

I have my Shuttle-Xpress jog/shuttle wheels set up for the center wheel to adjust the sliders and mostly use the outer wheel for navigating/scrolling in the Library module. With the ability to customize the device to your specific desires opens up a lot of options.

It's really nice that it is not a one-trick-pony .... I can be editing in FCP X and jump to Lr to resize, alter or further process a still image I want to include in a video project then jump back to FCP X to work a bit more then jump into LP X to further tweak an audio file and return to the video project and the Shuttle-Xpress never breaks stride.



Aug 17, 2017 at 03:16 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


Just read about this. I've been using midi2lr for about 8 months without many issues. It's free and a a midi controller can be picked up fairly cheap. Not sure I'm sold on this one as the features don't seem to be as customizable as midi2lr is. Here is another review. https://www.engadget.com/amp/2017/08/17/loupedeck-hands-on-controls-better


Aug 18, 2017 at 01:43 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


There was a thread on here a while back about using midi stuff to control Lightroom . Looks like a much cheaper option than loop deck or pallet (I do like the idea of pallet ) .
I think for about about the same cost as loopdeck you can get a motorised midi controller that moves the sliders etc to match the settings on the image which seems like a much more intuative approach if you using sliders



Aug 18, 2017 at 10:02 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


I got one through the program they used to fund the project. Well made works great no having to remember what key for this or that easier to do small adjustments in lr than a mouse I'm glad I got mine just wished it was cordless and used Bluetooth.


Aug 18, 2017 at 11:26 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


I got one through the program they used to fund the project. Well made works great no having to remember what key for this or that easier to do small adjustments in lr than a mouse I'm glad I got mine just wished it was cordless and used Bluetooth.


Aug 18, 2017 at 11:26 AM
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Thanks for the additional info! I like the idea of the specific LR-focused controls of Loupedeck since I would specifically use it in the Develop module. But I have since done more research and other options such as Contour and Palette each have certain features I like, too. And it turns out a friend is using MIDI2LR, which I will try first with a Behringer X-Touch Mini controller. Its dials don't have hard stops and two 'layers' for controlling 16 settings, plus a slider (not sure I'll use it much). I figure this will be a good entry point to get a feel for this type of UI and can 'move up' to one of the other products if I feel something is lacking from MIDI2LR.


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rscheffler wrote:
Thanks for the additional info! I like the idea of the specific LR-focused controls of Loupedeck since I would specifically use it in the Develop module. But I have since done more research and other options such as Contour and Palette each have certain features I like, too. And it turns out a friend is using MIDI2LR, which I will try first with a Behringer X-Touch Mini controller. Its dials don't have hard stops and two 'layers' for controlling 16 settings, plus a slider (not sure I'll use it much). I figure this will be a good entry point to
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I've also been thinking about the X-Touch Mini and MIDI2LR for the same reason. Loupedeck (and also the larger Behringer MIDI controllers) is just a little too expensive for me to buy without being sure i will like it.



Aug 19, 2017 at 08:41 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


MIDI for Capture One:

http://phodograf.com/controller-1/

Have not tried it myself...








Aug 20, 2017 at 03:01 AM
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15Bit wrote:
I've also been thinking about the X-Touch Mini and MIDI2LR for the same reason. Loupedeck (and also the larger Behringer MIDI controllers) is just a little too expensive for me to buy without being sure i will like it.


the behringer mini is about $50. best bang for the buck with the free midi2lr!
if people want to take it to the next level, get the midi fighter twister for $220, without a doubt.
https://store.djtechtools.com/products/midi-fighter-twister



Aug 21, 2017 at 02:12 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


here's the thread from a while back
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1460046/0?keyword=MIDI#13800383

personally I fancy giving the behringer BCF200 a go . motorised knobs and sliders that snap to the relevant settings when you move to the image seems like a good option to me . I think non motorised boards only change the relevant setting when you touch the slider or dial .
But looking at the loupedeck i think it seems like each dial / jog wheel has no stop so not being motorised shouldn't be an issue .
but the again for me id like the jog wheels (that are marked for colours) to be mapped to the expossure , blacks , whites etc rather than the colours .



Aug 21, 2017 at 09:06 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


tung256 wrote:
the behringer mini is about $50. best bang for the buck with the free midi2lr!
if people want to take it to the next level, get the midi fighter twister for $220, without a doubt.
https://store.djtechtools.com/products/midi-fighter-twister


That looks awesome! Dials that are also buttons!
I'll see how it goes with the Behringer.



Aug 21, 2017 at 09:17 PM
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Ian.Dobinson wrote:
here's the thread from a while back
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1460046/0?keyword=MIDI#13800383

personally I fancy giving the behringer BCF200 a go . motorised knobs and sliders that snap to the relevant settings when you move to the image seems like a good option to me . I think non motorised boards only change the relevant setting when you touch the slider or dial .


Looks like the BCF2000 has been replaced by this one, the Behringer X-Touch Compact Universal: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1025705-REG/behringer_x_touch_compact_universal_control.html



Aug 21, 2017 at 10:54 PM
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rscheffler wrote:
Looks like the BCF2000 has been replaced by this one, the Behringer X-Touch Compact Universal: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1025705-REG/behringer_x_touch_compact_universal_control.html


cool maybe find a few BCF-200's 'cheap' on the used market then



Aug 22, 2017 at 09:32 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


Hike itig on my loupedeck I go a jog wheel to try it it worked but the loupedeck is much better


Aug 22, 2017 at 10:02 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Loupedeck for editing - Good idea or not?


anyone tried the 3Dconnexion Spacemouse?
it looks a lot slicker than the Contour Pro.



Aug 22, 2017 at 05:19 PM
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tung256 wrote:

anyone tried the 3Dconnexion Spacemouse?
it looks a lot slicker than the Contour Pro.


It better look slick for $289-$325 (amazon USA prices)



Aug 22, 2017 at 05:37 PM
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