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I am taking a trip to Florence and Prague with my wife for two weeks in about a month. I will spend more time in Florence and likely do a day trip or two in Tuscany. I have been to Florence before a couple of times, but have never been to Prague. I have also bought and sold lenses since last time so am debating about what to take. I shoot with a Sony A7r2

Last time I went to Florence I took:

Leica WATE (16-21, now sold)
Batis 25 (now sold)
FE 35/2.8
FE 55/1.8 (now sold)
Leica R 180/2.8 (and 1.4x extender). I was pretty happy with that set though I rarely used the extender on the 180, but I used the 180 quite a bit. I mainly used the WATE, FE 55 and 180. I only occasionally used the Batis

Available lenses now are:

CV 12/5.6
Zeiss Loxia 21/2.8
Leica M 28/1.4
Zeiss ZM 35/1.4
FE 35/2.8
Zeiss Loxia 50/2
Leica M 75/2 apo
Leica M 90/2 apo
Leica M 135/3.4 apo
Leica R 180/2.8 apo
Leica R 280/4.apo

I am thinking about the following:

CV 12/5.6 (I hear in Prague one wants really wide)
Loxia 21 (really enjoying this lens)
Loxia 50 (also pretty sure about that one)
Leica 28/1.4 vs. ZM 35/1.4 vs. FE 35/2.8 (the latter is so light it is almost a freebie)
135/3.4 versus 180/2.8 (1 pound lighter versus more reach and slightly faster). Only recently acquired the 135.
Prob leave the 75mm and 90mm at home as well as the 280 tho am open to suggestions.

Any thoughts? I worry that the 135mm may not be long enough for architectural details or isolating certain subjects but am tempted by saving some weight. The 180 is double the weight of the 135, but the 180 is sharp across the frame from wide open and so is very useful in low light situations when hand held (like in the Baptistry ceiling or church or museum interiors). The other debate is the 28mm versus 35. Which makes more sense between 21 and 50? I guess I could take the Leica 28 and the FE 35 since the latter is so light...



Nov 02, 2016 at 04:19 PM
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I had 4 days in Prague before a business trip last year. I took my A7R and 16-35 lens. I typically shot architecture as well as some street scenes. Here is the breakdown of focal lengths I used:

Focal Length %
16 - 21 21%
22 - 28 28%
28 - 35 51%




Nov 02, 2016 at 06:11 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Lens selection for Florence and Prague


If it were up to me, i would sell the 180/2.8, buy a GM 70-200 and take that.


Nov 02, 2016 at 06:12 PM
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Strictly speaking for Prague, I don't see much use for the 70-200, but that could just be my style of shooting. Walking the narrow streets or viewing the insides of churches or castles really leans more toward the wide side.


Nov 02, 2016 at 06:31 PM
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If it were me, I'd go 12/35/90 or something along those lines. You'll want that 12 in tiny churches, etc. The 35 will be perfect for streets (I'd go with the 35/2.8 since it's so small and light and offers AF) and the 90 will be good for portraits or distant architecture and also for tighter landscapes.

You'll have almost a 2x difference from one focal length to the next. If you wanted to add in another option, I'd definitely consider the 21 as it's a little tighter, but still wide enough for most stuff and shouldn't give you any issues in the corners for those important church interiors.

I use a 35/90 setup almost exclusively and it always works for me. YMMV, but given you already have them in your kit, you might as well drop the 12 and/or 21 in the bag.




Nov 02, 2016 at 06:43 PM
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Nice set of lenses!

Personally, I'd take 12, 21, 35, 75, and 135 from that list. I'd probably use the 21mm the most, then 35mm.

I find I don't use 50 as much if I've got a good 35 and 75 or 90.

As to which 35, it's true the FE is almost a freebie, but you didn't use it last time, and I'm not sure why. Would you use the ZM more, because it's faster? I could see that being a very good nighttime lens. (the 28 Lux would be too, but it's too close to 21 IMO).

I definitely wouldn't want to lug around the 180/2.8, but that's just me. I would probably pack my CV 180/4 if I wanted a longer lens, though.



Nov 02, 2016 at 06:46 PM
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realVivek wrote:
If it were up to me, i would sell the 180/2.8, buy a GM 70-200 and take that.


I doubt the GM 70-200 would have the same quality, but zooms are certainly more flexible than primes. Don't know of any medium telephoto that is better than the R 180/2.8 apo.



Nov 02, 2016 at 07:05 PM
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Taylor Sherman wrote:
Nice set of lenses!

Personally, I'd take 12, 21, 35, 75, and 135 from that list. I'd probably use the 21mm the most, then 35mm.

I find I don't use 50 as much if I've got a good 35 and 75 or 90.

As to which 35, it's true the FE is almost a freebie, but you didn't use it last time, and I'm not sure why. Would you use the ZM more, because it's faster? I could see that being a very good nighttime lens. (the 28 Lux would be too, but it's too close to 21 IMO).

I definitely wouldn't
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I should have mentioned that last time I had a second body (A7r) that my wife used with only the 35/2.8 on it so I did not use 35mm much at all that trip. I currently don't have a second body (sold the A7r).

The Loxia 50 makes such pretty sunstars, that I suspect I would like that lens for some city scapes like here is a pic at 55mm that I imagine the sun stars would be pretty with the Loxia:



I don't have a 180/4. I took a lot at 180, tho like this:



or this:



I confess that I sometimes left the 180 in the hotel due to weight considerations.





Nov 02, 2016 at 07:16 PM
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Luvwine wrote:
I doubt the GM 70-200 would have the same quality, but zooms are certainly more flexible than primes. Don't know of any medium telephoto that is better than the R 180/2.8 apo.


How can the 180/2.8 be better than anything else when it does not see much action any time?




Nov 02, 2016 at 07:34 PM
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21, 35/1.4 & 50


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realVivek wrote:
How can the 180/2.8 be better than anything else when it does not see much action any time?



Not sure I understand what you mean. I used it quite a lot and still enjoy using it. Link to Puts review:

http://allphotolenses.com/public/files/pdfs/2a2f3ec4bd0515289151d1fb0ce74f53.pdf



Nov 02, 2016 at 07:59 PM
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Prague is a gorgeous city.

The only thing I regret was that I brought too much gear and it got in the way of shooting instead of helping me shoot. Either way, I had a lot of fun. Best times to shoot there is late at night or very early in the morning just before dawn.


https://500px.com/FlyPenFly/galleries/prague

As far as lenses, 24, 35, 50, and maybe a long lens is good. There are a lot of opportunities for indoor UWA if you want to bring some sort of UWA 18-20mm lens. I would recommend bringing as discrete as possible tripod maybe even a table top one.



Nov 02, 2016 at 08:08 PM
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Picking from your kit, I'd probably go Loxia 21 (easy pano lens if you need a little wider), ZM 35, one of the Summicrons, likely the 90, but I haven't spent a significant amount of time with the 75, and the 180. I would probably also bring the extender, because I always do, even though I never use it.

Mostly, though, I responded to say- take the 180. Having owned both, I can tell you the 135, great lens that it is, is no substitute if you love what you get from the 180.



Nov 02, 2016 at 09:41 PM
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Three ideas, since you like that 180mm focal length....
1) get a sony A6xxx to use with the 135
2) get a Leica 180/3.4...doesn't look overly huge and a lot cheaper than
3) get a voigtlander 180mm f/4 (excellent lens, the prices they are selling for are pretty high...I do have one for sale, with a price reflecting what they sell for now...which is honestly really high...hence why I'm selling it)

As for the rest of the kit, IDK. I'd stick to as close to the focal lengths as you liked before minus the 24. So 12/21/best performing 35 1.4 & 35 2.8 for when you want to go light/50/135 and a Sony A6xxx for when you want to go lighter or longer.



Nov 02, 2016 at 10:26 PM
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FlyPenFly wrote:
Prague is a gorgeous city.

The only thing I regret was that I brought too much gear and it got in the way of shooting instead of helping me shoot.



This is the conclusion I've come to over the years. My Leica set is 28/50/90mm. My Nikon set is 20/35/85mm. I've to really appreciate the capabilty, lightness, and quickness of a well thought out three lens set. I take better photos and have more fun when I pare it down to a small camera bag, and am not constantly switching lenses and focusing my attention on camera gear instead of the more important things.

Finally, in the end, I think people end up using the same lenses on a trip as they do at home.


Kent in SD



Nov 02, 2016 at 11:09 PM
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realVivek wrote:
If it were up to me, i would sell the 180/2.8, buy a GM 70-200 and take that.


Order now, so you'll have it in time for your third trip to Florence, years from now!



Nov 02, 2016 at 11:22 PM
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Luvwine wrote:
I mainly used the WATE, FE 55 and 180.


given you've been to Florence several times (and I don't see how Prague is very much different) and from your own experience you know which focal lengths you used more often (so it doesn't matter what anyone else's preferences would be), i would simply find focal lengths that most closely match what you've preferred in the past.

my only 2 cents would be - spend more than a day or two outside of Florence - my favorite spots are the countless hill towns in the vicinity.



Nov 02, 2016 at 11:32 PM
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ecarlino wrote:
given you've been to Florence several times (and I don't see how Prague is very much different) and from your own experience you know which focal lengths you used more often (so it doesn't matter what anyone else's preferences would be), i would simply find focal lengths that most closely match what you've preferred in the past.

my only 2 cents would be - spend more than a day or two outside of Florence - my favorite spots are the countless hill towns in the vicinity.


Any favorites for late fall early winter? Been to Sienna 20 years ago and San Giminiano, but never to Lucca, Pisa, etc.

Yes, I am comfortable in Florence, but no clue about Prague.



Nov 02, 2016 at 11:56 PM
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Travel light

CV 12, Native 21, 35, then 75/2 and 135/3.4 (that kit is not too fat, so you could take the 1k gram 180 instead of the 135)

If you had a M body, the pick would be totally different.

In that case I would take the 28 Lux for sure




Nov 03, 2016 at 12:56 AM
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If it were me I would take the Loxia 21, Leica M 28 Lux, the Loxia 50, the Leica M 90 AA, and the Leica 180 Elmarit. I have all these lenses except the 180 Elmarit and the work very nicely together. If weight was too much I would leave the 180 at home, but it sound like you might want to leave the 90 AA at home. I would have a hard time with that as I love short tele. I also don't like super wide, so I wouldn't consider the 12mm, but perhaps you would like to take it. I have the 28 Lux, ZM 35, and FE 35 f/2.8 and of these I would pick the 28 Lux especially with the 21 and 50 (I think it fits better in the gap between the two Loxia) and although I love both lenses a lot, I find the 28 Lux to be just a bit better in most ways and just a bit less compromised on the A7r II.


Nov 03, 2016 at 01:12 AM
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