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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Need a little help on the wide end


I shoot portraits, sports, landscape (a little bit) and wildlife.
I am looking to upgrade my wider end of focal lengths. I currently have:
Rokinon 14mm f2.8
Canon 17-35 f2.8L
Canon 24-70 f2.8L (nice sharp copy)
Canon 24-105 f4L (also a good copy)
Canon 50mm f1.8 STM
I'm considering the Canon 16-35 f4 IS or consolidating the 24-xxx range into a 24-70 II or the Tamron 24-70 VC.
I use the 24-70 and the 70-200 most often and regularly leave my primes (50 f1.8 and 85 f1.8) in the bag as I prefer zooms. I also use them very often at f2.8 for portraits and low light sports so not sure I want to give up that ability.
Shooting some environmental kinds of portraits I feel limited on the wide side and have to do a lot of post work with either the 14mm or 17-35mm mostly for distortion.
Suggestions?



Oct 27, 2016 at 09:47 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Need a little help on the wide end


The Canon 16-35 f/4L IS is a top-flight lens as long as you don't need f/2.8, and you probably don't.

Dan



Oct 27, 2016 at 09:54 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Need a little help on the wide end


As far as improvements at the wide end goes, I think that buying an EF 16-35/4L IS would be a good choice. Excellent IQ and very useful IS. OTOH, that really won't affect your workflow as far as correcting distortion goes. You can set up your workflow to automagically incorporate lens corrections, which would work for both existing lenses and new lenses, and so I think the primary consideration here could be, do you need better IQ at the wide end, or do I need IS at the wide end ?

As far as consolidating the 24mm to whatever mm range goes, I'm heading in the opposite direction. I've used the 24-105/4L IS, 24-70/2.8L, and 24-70/2.8L II. Earlier this year, I sold my 24-70/2.8L II (which replaced my Mk I a few years prior), because I prefer using either (i) the 24-105L IS, because of its extra versatility; or (ii) a prime lens, when I'm after the best IQ.

I'm currently waiting for the 24-105/4L IS II, that I pre-ordered on day-one. It should be here right some soon now.



Oct 27, 2016 at 10:03 AM
JVthePT
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Need a little help on the wide end


Thanks for the replies.
I'm quite interested to see what real world users think of the new 24-105 II.
I'm leaning towards the 16-35 f4 IS as it seems that is my weakest area in terms of my current lens line up.
Lens correction for the 17-35L on DPP4 is OK but I have to do it manually for the Rokinon lens and find that I'm not able to consistently get the same numbers in 1st, 2nd, 3rd order adjustments to yield consistent results.
Auto lens would be great, but I can't seem to make it happen with that 14mm lens.



Oct 27, 2016 at 12:21 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Need a little help on the wide end


FF get the 8-15L apc 10-22


Oct 27, 2016 at 12:35 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Need a little help on the wide end


FF get the 8-15L apc 10-22


Oct 27, 2016 at 12:35 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Need a little help on the wide end


My view is that the ts17 is the best uwa available. Especially for landscape and architecture. With shift and stitch you can do 11mm equivalent. With a 1.4x it is a 24mm. With shifting and stitch it can do 20mm... Any non shift lens makes you either throw the bottom 1/3 of picture away or tilt up and cause bowed trees etc.

I have zeiss 15/2.8 and it has been the best uwa bar non (until perhaps 11-22 and 16-35/2.8v3 came along) but I will always use my ts17 first because the off level corrections on non shift lens just don't look natural. My zeiss is relegated to night shooting because of high iq wide open and hard stop at infinity.

That said its quite expensive and has a step learning curve, bulbous lens, not great for off tripod, not great wide open, not good with filters, prone to flare ... e.g. it takes more skill than most other lens.



Oct 27, 2016 at 09:58 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Need a little help on the wide end


Why should he get a super expensive lens with super limited useability?

Michael White wrote:
FF get the 8-15L apc 10-22




Oct 28, 2016 at 05:13 AM
JVthePT
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Need a little help on the wide end


Yes, I laughed when I read that post. It was a lot like a drug commercial, "it will cure your infection, but you'll get raging diarrhea, cramping, hair loss, headaches, etc".


Oct 28, 2016 at 05:28 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Need a little help on the wide end


I'm a photojournalist and the 16-35 f/4L IS is an excellent lens for news, architecture, environmental portraits, landscapes and general photography. In fact, I carry two cameras and I usually keep the 16-35 f/4L IS and the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II glued on most of the time, even though I own a spectrum of high-end lenses.

The new 16-35 f/2.8L III is supposed to be very good, but well over twice the price and no IS. I really don't miss the faster aperture, but it is an option.



Oct 28, 2016 at 07:45 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Need a little help on the wide end


Thanks to all who replied with good advice. I will have a Canon 16-35 f4 IS in hands on Saturday. I'm really excited to get it.



Nov 03, 2016 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Need a little help on the wide end


JVthePT wrote:
Need a little help on the wide end


Don't we all?
Less food and more exercise...

EBH



Nov 03, 2016 at 09:09 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Need a little help on the wide end


Hahaha! That hits so close to home it hurts!


Nov 03, 2016 at 10:41 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Need a little help on the wide end


JVthePT wrote:
Thanks to all who replied with good advice. I will have a Canon 16-35 f4 IS in hands on Saturday. I'm really excited to get it.


Congrats, You will be happy with it. I've shot with mine for about a year and no regrets at all.



Nov 03, 2016 at 11:07 PM





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