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m.sommers00
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810 long in the tooth...




Oct 27, 2016 at 05:19 PM
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The D810 is a far better camera than the d700. The 800 was sluggish. The 810 was not.

I still think the 750 successor should keep the 24mpx. I love that file size.
I would rather take a 24mp 8fps than a 36mp 6fps which I think is possible.

sandycrane wrote:
Well, maybe fixed beyond all expectations.
I was never tempted to upgrade from the d700 to the d800. But when the d810 came out I had to have that camera. The d810 is a fantastic camera and it's gonna take a lot more than tilting screens or more megas to get me to upgrade.




Oct 27, 2016 at 06:19 PM
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I know a lot of people will agree with you and you make good points but not all of us shoot for others. I shoot for myself and I have high expectations. I know most the people I show my photos to will ever notice a difference between a D5000 and D810 file but I can notice it.
Also there is room for improvement in what I shoot. For example night shots can always get better and cleaner. The 810 has a lot of hot pixels when shooting at night for a long exposure. Do I need this improvement NO, but I would likely buy a body that took a big step in the right direction in regard to this. Night shooting has become the type of shooting I enjoy most so there is things that can intrigue me to buy a new body.

Also people constantly say we don't need more MP, and it is likely true for many but I shoot landscape. I have a local gallery by me where the guy uses a lot of large format. He also shoots with a D800 and the difference in a big print is huge. I would like to print large and I hope one day the digital camera I use will be able to come close to the large format prints.

I never want the companies to think they don't need to try and progress. What a horrible message to send them. If you don't need what the future brings then in 5 years save yourself a ton of money and buy a used D810 for $500.

I get sick of hearing how everyone who buys the latest stuff is trying to show off. I can care less what people think of my gear. I mostly shoot with MF lenses now and I don't buy stuff to impress others. I also feel the large majority of people who buy new gear don't do it to impress. SOme of us can afford it and we want the small gains it provides. There is nothing wrong with this.

pr4photos wrote:
I honestly think we are reaching the point of little gains - and I mean this in the real world, not pixel peeping, or lab results

How many clients do you have that would notice the difference between a D800 file or a D810 file, and would notice the difference with a D820 file, however wonderful its portrayed to be.

Yes, the AF upgrades are useful, and the low ISO upgrades are nice, but these are quite niche upgrades. 99% of working photographers don't actually 'need' these upgrades, and certainly don't need them at the price it takes to buy the new
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Oct 27, 2016 at 06:29 PM
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To me the main value of an upgrade to the D810 would be the AF system of the D5 and its Auto White Balance capability.

The AF of the D810 was best in class at the time of release and is still good in absolute terms, but the focus accuracy/speed I am getting with the D5 is just out of this world good. Be it with the 105mm f1.4 @ f1.4 or the 400mm f2.8E FL.

The AWB of the D5 hasn't been talked about much, but it is truly outstanding in my book, it beats hands down anything else I have seen.

More resolution would be good, but the difference between 36mp and 54 mp would be pretty minor in fact.

Of course Nikon could also surprise us and equip the D820/D850/D900 with an EVF. I am not sure I would like that personnally.

Cheers,
Bernard



Oct 27, 2016 at 08:24 PM
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Dj R wrote:
That is a good point Dustin.
I do love my D810.

But to be honest, I feel that some improved AF would make it a better all-arounder, similar to the 5DmIII/IV
So I would be ok investing some more money into the new generation.

Yes, overall, D810 gets the job done.

The D810 is not designed to be an all-rounder. It's designed for portraiture/landscape. For that , it is so much better than the Canon 5D3/4. Long in the tooth? That's funny.



Oct 27, 2016 at 09:11 PM
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Some of you guys are so sensitive I feel like I need to send you roses. nikon will have announce a replacement for the 810 within 6 months. That's what I meant by long in the tooth.

I own one. It made me switch to Nikon. I love it. We are all friends, now?

m.sommers00 wrote:
810 long in the tooth...





Oct 27, 2016 at 09:26 PM
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You say that. But guess what. Nikon will improve the AF system and you'll be excited.

Drakus wrote:
The D810 is not designed to be an all-rounder. It's designed for portraiture/landscape. For that , it is so much better than the Canon 5D3/4. Long in the tooth? That's funny.




Oct 27, 2016 at 09:26 PM
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Just adding that not all D810 successor buyers will be current D8xx series owners.
Some of us skip a generation.
Also, releasing a D810 successor doesn't obsolete the D810 as it is still a supremely competent camera but it is necessary in a competitive and declining market.

What I'd like to see is the successor split into two bodies. As sensor QE plateaus, it will be optimisation for a specialised role that sets it apart, similar to how the D5 sensor is clearly aimed at high ISO shooting with some low ISO DR penalties.
Of course, even with the specialisation the sensors will still need to be competent generally in all areas.
A D820X will continue the D8xx trend concentrating on resolution and best base ISO IQ but without the very fast frame rates or very high ISO IQ performance.
A D820H will be a more generalised prosumer body with more of a balance between resolution, frame rates and high ISO IQ.
Add all the D5 generation AF goodies to both of course and better liveview performance.



Oct 27, 2016 at 09:43 PM
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Dj R wrote:
Some of you guys are so sensitive I feel like I need to send you roses. nikon will have announce a replacement for the 810 within 6 months. That's what I meant by long in the tooth.

I own one. It made me switch to Nikon. I love it. We are all friends, now?



I have zero problem with any of these comments........BUT, if you could put my wife's name on the roses. I am sure I have done something wrong and flowers MIGHT help. I can PM the address :-))
Greg



Oct 28, 2016 at 04:53 AM
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I would agree with the statement, if you have it, spend it. New gear is never a bad thing. I had a lot of bad luck this year... so instead of buying new gear, I ended up spending money on fixing broken gear. D800 and Df both got damaged, and I value both of them. Some would tell me to buy a new camera instead of fixing the old one. But I don't find either camera incapable of meeting my photographic needs.


Oct 28, 2016 at 08:03 AM
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Nikon would demand a new sensor from Sony for a D8X0. Backside illuminated and somewhere north of 42Mp. And Sony is capable of building it.


Oct 28, 2016 at 11:44 AM
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Desertcruiser wrote:
Why base ISO32? Base 64 is quite usable.
If the boost goes down to 25 why not.
A wider AF field would be nice, but its almost not possible. Me i don't need more than 36mp...


because as a landscape photographer, you get longer slow shutter speeds when you can expand to lower ISO.



Oct 28, 2016 at 11:48 AM
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sandycrane wrote:
Well, maybe fixed beyond all expectations.
I was never tempted to upgrade from the d700 to the d800. But when the d810 came out I had to have that camera. The d810 is a fantastic camera and it's gonna take a lot more than tilting screens or more megas to get me to upgrade.


Ok, that's closer :-) The sensor without AA filter, the improved and quieter shutter, the introduction of ISO 64 as base ISO, sRAW, electronic first curtain, increased resolution screen, better battery life - there's a lot of improvements (many of them small), adding up to a "finished" camera - basically the D810 is the polished camera that the D800 was the beta-test approximation to.



Oct 28, 2016 at 01:49 PM
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You know, there's one thing that might make a successor to the D810 interesting - continue with the reasoning that made 64 ISO the base. Maybe make a new model with a base ISO of 32 or even 25? I don't want this as an "extended ISO", but as a true base ISO. It's not something other DSLRs have done.


Oct 28, 2016 at 01:57 PM
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mysh wrote:
I get sick of hearing how everyone who buys the latest stuff is trying to show off. I can care less what people think of my gear. I mostly shoot with MF lenses now and I don't buy stuff to impress others. I also feel the large majority of people who buy new gear don't do it to impress. SOme of us can afford it and we want the small gains it provides. There is nothing wrong with this.


I think a lot of that is humblebragging ie. the inverse of bragging about having the latest (the very worse of this is the 'oh, taken with my iphone' lot)

I take your view, I put a huge amount of effort into many of my fashion and landscape shoots so to use anything less than the very best I can get is doing a disservice to myself and my efforts.



Oct 28, 2016 at 02:23 PM
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Interested in seeing:

Better low ISO
D5 AF & illumination points

Would love:

EVF
Tilt screen
Touch screen

No interest:

Much higher MP
Anything north of $3500



Oct 29, 2016 at 08:52 AM
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guitardirky wrote:
because as a landscape photographer, you get longer slow shutter speeds when you can expand to lower ISO.


Yeah, that's right. Of course i understand that. If the dynamic @ISO64 is always that great, why not.




Oct 29, 2016 at 12:04 PM
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Dj R wrote:
Some of you guys are so sensitive I feel like I need to send you roses. nikon will have announce a replacement for the 810 within 6 months. That's what I meant by long in the tooth.

I own one. It made me switch to Nikon. I love it. We are all friends, now?



Absolutely not. I'm still missing my roses.



Oct 29, 2016 at 04:51 PM
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I do a lot of live classical music shooting, so I'm seriously hoping they can make the shutter even quieter than the D810. Canon is way ahead of Nikon on this front. I couldn't believe how quiet the Canon shutter is.


Oct 29, 2016 at 05:40 PM
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blutch wrote:
I do a lot of live classical music shooting, so I'm seriously hoping they can make the shutter even quieter than the D810. Canon is way ahead of Nikon on this front. I couldn't believe how quiet the Canon shutter is.


although the C 5D mk iV is does not get quiet at all
which body are you referring to?



Oct 29, 2016 at 05:53 PM
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