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Michael_Sexton
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Just curious which crop ratio most prefer. On the GX8 there are several options for the crop ratio, 4:3 and 3:2 being the two most common. At least on the GX8 even if you choose the 3:2 ratio the raw file is always shot in 4:3 and Photoshop will apply the 3:2 crop with the option of reverting back to 4:3 or any other crop you may prefer.
Maybe it's because of full frame shooting for so long but at this point I prefer 3:2.

Your thoughts and opinions are welcome...

73,
Mike



Oct 04, 2016 at 02:16 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


I normally shoot in 4:3 but crop to 3:2 (but use 1:1 and 13:9 as other options for mounted prints)

I always have the EVF grid activated so that I can compose with these options in mind



Oct 04, 2016 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


My most common output aspect ratios are 4x5 or 5x7 which makes 4:3 a very good starting point. Even for 5x7 I "lose" less starting from 4:3 than I would a native 3:2 aspect ratio. While I shot 35mm film and APS-C for many years at 3:2 these days I really prefer 4:3 if forced into a single aspect ratio. Every time I look at Fuji or A7 wistfully I have to remind myself that would mean going back to 3:2.

When I shot with an LX3 or GH2 which had true multi-aspect sensors I found I mostly shot 4:3 and occasionally 16:9 but usually skipped right over 3:2. For whatever reason it seems an awkward aspect ratio to me - but of course a totally personal opinion that many wouldn't share!

I'd like to see more multi-aspect sensors again in m43.

For whatever reason 3:2 always seems awkward too me. It works OK in landscape but is rather poor in portrait orientation. Even in landscape though I find it



Oct 04, 2016 at 06:07 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


I shoot in 4:3 (no crop) with my E-M1 rather than crop it in-camera. I will then decide in post if the image is better suited to a 4:3, 3:2, 2:1, 3:1, 13:9 or 1:1 crop ratio. I use the ratio that works best for the image/composition.


Oct 04, 2016 at 10:16 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


bobbytan wrote:
I shoot in 4:3 (no crop) with my E-M1 rather than crop it in-camera. I will then decide in post if the image is better suited to a 4:3, 3:2, 2:1, 3:1, 13:9 or 1:1 crop ratio. I use the ratio that works best for the image/composition.


Seems logical to me... I'm going to try this approach and see how well I adapt after coming from the full frame 3:2 aspect ratio.




Oct 04, 2016 at 10:52 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


kwalsh wrote:
For whatever reason 3:2 always seems awkward too me.


I kinda feel that way about 4:3 at this point...



Oct 04, 2016 at 10:53 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Michael_Sexton wrote:
I kinda feel that way about 4:3 at this point...


I have to say I don't leave a lot of photos at 4:3 - I often compose and edit for 4x5 or 5x7. It is just the 4:3 is the best mid-point for those two options.

And you are not alone, I think a lot of folks who have shot 3:2 for years end up feeling that way about 4:3. In the past a lot of people's compact back up cameras shot 4:3 so they were used to it but now most all the 1" sensors taking that place are also 3:2 aspect ratio.



Oct 05, 2016 at 12:54 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Use whatever gives you all the pixels, you can crop later. That's my basic philosophy on it.

I prefer 3:2, though. I think my old m4/3:gives me the most pixels on it.



Oct 05, 2016 at 01:52 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Like others, I shoot everything in 4:3 because I want the full image available so I can make cropping decisions in post. That being said, I usually crop down to 3:2. Probably because I am most familiar with those relative dimensions as opposed to it being objectively better.


Oct 05, 2016 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Having a history with DSLRs mostly I shoot mostly in the 3:2 format, it just looks more natural to my eyes. Also most of my prints are smaller 4 x 6 prints for family members so 3:2 fits better. There was a time when shooting m4/3 that I would shoot RAW+JPEG set at 3:2 so the JPEG was 3:2 but the RAW was 4:3. I stopped doing that and just went back to 4:3 which seems to fit the screen of the iPad natively.

Actually thinking it over, with the release of the E-M1 II with dual card slots and my typical shooting style is RAW to card 1 and JPEG to card 2, I might go back to this. 4:3 RAW to card 1 and 3:2 JPEG to card 2.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Well, I looked it up, and it ruined my perfectly good assumptions lol.

I get more pixels on the long dimension on 3:2, or 16:9, and more on the short dimension on 4:3.

So if you are cropping to 8x10 or square, like I often do for people, you'd be better off with 4:3. I've been using slrs for so long, though, and I don't shoot many photos of people, so I'll probably use 3:2 the vast majority the time

If you crop from 3:2 to 4:3 on my older body, you wind up with about 20% less pixels. Which is probably not noticable, but I'd generally rather have them. Moving up a print size is usually about double the area, down about half the area. 30D and 40 D seemed the same, 8mp vs 10mp, though I didn't test much

Check for your body, though, it may vary.



Oct 05, 2016 at 05:35 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


I usually capture the maximum info I can get, thus 4:3 even if I know I'm going to crop.

And in LR5, if I shoot cropped (even in RAW) I can't figure out how to get the full 4:3 frame back; the mx LR will give me is the selected crop.



Oct 06, 2016 at 02:26 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


I would take all the pixels and crop afterwards. I like a 4:5 ratio (for prints).


Oct 06, 2016 at 06:45 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


kwalsh wrote:
For whatever reason 3:2 always seems awkward too me. It works OK in landscape but is rather poor in portrait orientation. Even in landscape though I find it


Yep. For whatever reason, I find I tend to shoot more frequently in portrait orientation. I just see compositions better that way. And 4:3 feels way more natural to me in portrait.



Oct 06, 2016 at 08:03 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


The projectors used for digital projected images have a 4:3 aspect ratio (1400/1600 px wide by 1050/1200 px high) so if you are entering your images into DPI competitions you will eventually need to crop landscape images to 4:3 if you want to take full advantage of the screen. For portrait images the maximum height will be 1050/1200 px depending on how new the projector is, in which case the aspect ratio may be pretty well anything.


Oct 07, 2016 at 02:00 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


For portrait orientation, I greatly prefer 4:3.

For landscape, I prefer 4:3 or 16:9 over 3:2.



Oct 10, 2016 at 02:24 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


The majority of my shooting is 4:3. However, I do use the alternative aspect ratios available on my GX8, as it makes framing in the field so much easier. What I do really like, is that the GX8 captures the whole 4:3 frame regardless of the aspect ratio selected, so that it can be very easily changed in Lightroom if need be.


Oct 11, 2016 at 09:35 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Neither really. I prefer either 1:1 or 2.7:1. The extremes.

But no one will make me my prefect camera (the rumoured Hasselblad is a crop of the 100MP sensor) and I no longer own an XPan or a 503.

So generally I prefer 4:3 for portraits and 3:2 for general shooting. But I'm more likely to stick landscapes if the scene allows it.

Gordon



Oct 18, 2016 at 01:08 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


Been shooting all 4:3 lately and seems to be the most logical way to go so far.


Nov 06, 2016 at 09:29 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 4:3 or 3:2 Your Preference


I have wanted a camera that covered the lens image circle such that one could chose from the largest framing (square) through something very rectangular --16:9 is common but 2:1 would be good. I have mused about that impressive Samsung 28mpx APS-C sensor being used to implement this scheme for 4/3 lenses --I think it would give ~18mpx square and diminishing sizes for increasingly rectangular framings. But I suppose that the petal lens hoods might interfere with getting the full square image?

When I had a 3:2 framing in the D40 and the multi-aspect framing in an LX3, I found myself often preferring 4:3 in the landscape mode for things such as trees, houses, and where wider was wanted, then 16:9; 3:2 often was just not right. (Oddly, I recall Ming Thein opining about how he tended to *see* in just one framing (when he was shooting w/LX copy Leica D-Lux 4).

-d.



Nov 10, 2016 at 05:15 PM
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