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AuntiPode wrote:
Consider using a noise reduction layer with masking and layer blending to apply different amounts of noise reduction to different parts of the image. I often find this works better than a single "one size fits all" noise reduction layer.
Thanks Karen. I guess I have reached the point where I must make the jump over to PS. I have procrastinated over this long enough and just need to get'r done.
Dave
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RustyBug wrote:
+1 @ Karen selective application ... which is also nicely adjusjustable via mask density, opacity or a few other techniques.
Played with your file a bit.
Caveats:
1. I processed using ACR for some NR and some Sharpening ... I never do that but I just wanted to see how it would fare using those tools.
2. I'm working outside in the dark (literally), so my normal editing environment is not in play here.
3. I took the file from ProPhoto RGB to ColorMatch RGB before going into CS6
That said, don't pay so much attention to what I did, but I'll simply say that for the 70D @ ISO 4000 @ 7:30 AM with an EXIF @ 7+ stops below Sunny 16 in the mountain valley ... the amount of noise in your RAW is not anything I would cry foul about. Rather, it might be S T R E T C H I N G your PP skills, to raise them a bit.
When I turned off all the NR, the color noise was more prominent than the luminance noise. But, in ACR the color noise cleaned up pretty well. Seeing all the color noise is why I moved from ProPhoto RGB color space to Color Match RGB. The "bigger" space pushes things father, and if our color noise is present, I'm not inclined to think we want to amplify our colors until AFTER we correct them (if desired), thus the move to a smaller space.
Once in PS, I set up two layers, one for USM, one for NR ... inverse masked and played around to taste. Understanding that I never got the luminance noise to fully go away, but to make it manageable for resizing (25%). Then AFTER resizing, I applied some more USM to get a bit more detail.
Anyway, this is what I came up with ... noting a bunch of caveats. I may get inside and go "Ugggh", that's terrible. But out here in the dark ... well, you get what ya paid for. ...Show more →
Thanks for taking the time to take a look at that image Kent. Good to hear my 70D noise is on par for those settings and exposure.
Silly question, but I can't figure out what you mean by 7 stops under Sunny 16. I still get confused on the Sunny 16 rule in this situation and it never makes sense to me so I just let the ISO float based on my needed SS and Aperture. Was my exposure wrong? Looked good to me.
As I mentioned to Karen, I think I need to be S T R E T C H I N G open my wallet as well as my PP skills and finally break down and get PS. I intended to do this last winter for my "winter project" but a little flooring project took over my life and I never got around to it. Time to make the jump me thinks.
Just imagine the visual carnage you folks are going to have to put up with once I get my grubby hands into PS. Hell, I do enough damage just in LR6.
Thanks again Kent for taking the time to take a look at them and for the PS process explanation.
BTW... What's up with you being outside in the dark? Is your better half making you sleep outside now?
Maybe you shouldn't have bought that new camera. Better sell it to me quick before the cold winter gets here.
Dave
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Shasoc wrote:
NR and sharpening need always to be done on separate layers. I use a plugins for both of these adjustments.
If it was my image I would tone it down. That will also help the NR while the contrast will enhance detail.
Socrate
Thank you Socrate. This is now clear to me that must take the plunge into the PS bunny hole. I've put it off long enough. Your edit is nice! What plugins do you use or is there only one common one out there that everyone uses?
Dave
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