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GMPhotography wrote:
I to try to get to at least 95 percent perfect and that ain't easy at all. Best lens really Is the FE 50 1.4 that I've come across. It's hits just about every check mark just wish I liked 50mm more than I do. Really that maybe me being very anal about it. If you polled your last 800 shots my bet 500 of them the corners would mean nothing anyway. Where I get nervous is the quick fall off in the mid range and if your shooting small groups and such those on the outside could go soft
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Well said, Guy. There is more about it than just corner peeping even if the sharp spot is still laser sharp as it is in case of my decentered 1.4/50ZA.



Aug 12, 2017 at 04:47 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I to try to get to at least 95 percent perfect and that ain't easy at all. Best lens really Is the FE 50 1.4 that I've come across. It's hits just about every check mark just wish I liked 50mm more than I do. Really that maybe me being very anal about it. If you polled your last 800 shots my bet 500 of them the corners would mean nothing anyway. Where I get nervous is the quick fall off in the mid range and if your shooting small groups and such those on the outside could go soft
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A while back I sold you a perfect 50/1.4 ZA and you didn't keep it!!!
Currently I have great copies of the 50/1.4 ZA and 55/1.8 ZA. I've learned the 55/1.8 works great on the A6500 together with Sony's 24/1.8. (35/85 equiv. tiny lenses on a small body)



Aug 12, 2017 at 05:13 AM
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I know and I'm wish I really liked the 50mm focal length as I Have tried several times but it just don't fit me.


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A while back I sold you a perfect 50/1.4 ZA and you didn't keep it!!!
Currently I have great copies of the 50/1.4 ZA and 55/1.8 ZA. I've learned the 55/1.8 works great on the A6500 together with Sony's 24/1.8. (35/85 equiv. tiny lenses on a small body)




Aug 12, 2017 at 06:01 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
A while back I sold you a perfect 50/1.4 ZA and you didn't keep it!!!


Sounds like an endless loop :P


Fred Miranda wrote:
Currently I have great copies of the 50/1.4 ZA and 55/1.8 ZA. I've learned the 55/1.8 works great on the A6500 together with Sony's 24/1.8. (35/85 equiv. tiny lenses on a small body)


Yes, the 24/55 combo is the way to go for the A6500. I've used it for four months and it is very practical with fast AF, reasonable size and decent optical qualities.

I've missed the 24 on my A7ii so much that I just got a 2.8/35 ZA as replacement. Not the same macro feature but even smaller and otherwise quite comparable.



Aug 12, 2017 at 08:04 AM
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Color intensity and contrast are really high. This image was just imported to LR, white +30 and exported:


Pink Rose by Jannik Peters, auf Flickr



Aug 12, 2017 at 07:55 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
A while back I sold you a perfect 50/1.4 ZA and you didn't keep it!!!
Currently I have great copies of the 50/1.4 ZA and 55/1.8 ZA. I've learned the 55/1.8 works great on the A6500 together with Sony's 24/1.8. (35/85 equiv. tiny lenses on a small body)



Fred don't forget about the 35mm f/2.8 ZA on the A6500 it also makes a great 50ish lens to go along with the 24mm and 55mm so you have a nice 3 lens kit of 35/50/85.
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Aug 12, 2017 at 08:05 PM
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Chuck Coyne wrote:
Fred don't forget about the 35mm f/2.8 ZA on the A6500 it also makes a great 50ish lens to go along with the 24mm and 55mm so you have a nice 3 lens kit of 35/50/85.
Chuck


I really like the size of A6500 + 35/2.8 ZA but don't find rendering that nice. It's more like a 50/4 with harsh rendering at mid-distances.



Aug 30, 2017 at 04:52 PM
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Jannik Peters wrote:
Sounds like an endless loop :P


I've missed the 24 on my A7ii so much that I just got a 2.8/35 ZA as replacement. Not the same macro feature but even smaller and otherwise quite comparable.


I compared the 24/1.8 ZA (A6500) vs 35/2.8 ZA (A7RII) side by side, wide-open at many different distances. They are pretty much equivalent as far as FL and blur.
It's shocking how similar the OOF rendering is, sometimes it was not easy to tell them apart. Of course the 24/1.8 focuses much closer but at similar distances they are pretty much equal in 'look'. There are many reports saying the 24/1.8 has smooth rendering, but like the 35/2.8ZA, it's only at close distance.

The 35/2.8 ZA is better corrected for aberration though, especially LoCA and it's noticeably sharper wide open.

I'm not sure which is smaller to carry...A6500 + 24/1.8 or A7RII + 35/2.8.



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I compared the 24/1.8 ZA (A6500) vs 35/2.8 ZA (A7RII) side by side, wide-open for both lenses. They are pretty much equivalent as far as FL and blur.
It's shocking how similar the OOF rendering is, sometimes it was not easy to tell them apart. Of course the 24/1.8 focuses much closer but at similar distances they are pretty much equal in 'look'. There are many reports saying the 24/1.8 has smooth rendering, but like the 35/2.8ZA, it's only at close distance.

The 35/2.8 ZA is better corrected for aberration though, especially LoCA and it's noticeably sharper wide open.

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The "pentaprism" bump on the A7xy series make up for most of the difference between them and the A6x00 series. That's why a couple of small lenses like the 28/2, 35/2.8 ended my need for a crop camera. Now, if someone would make an AF 85/2.8 FE, like there was the Sony A-mount 85/2.8 clasical five element Sonnar type.



Sep 04, 2017 at 12:12 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I compared the 24/1.8 ZA (A6500) vs 35/2.8 ZA (A7RII) side by side, wide-open at many different distances. They are pretty much equivalent as far as FL and blur.
It's shocking how similar the OOF rendering is, sometimes it was not easy to tell them apart. Of course the 24/1.8 focuses much closer but at similar distances they are pretty much equal in 'look'. There are many reports saying the 24/1.8 has smooth rendering, but like the 35/2.8ZA, it's only at close distance.

The 35/2.8 ZA is better corrected for aberration though, especially LoCA and it's noticeably sharper wide open.

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This comparison is very interesting to me. Apart from the OOF similarities, did you find the rendering in general to be very similar? Would you be likely to keep both set-ups for any reason? Or do they overlap so much that there is little point? Of course, the larger aperture on the 24 is nice.



Sep 06, 2017 at 02:53 AM
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chiron wrote:
This comparison is very interesting to me. Apart from the OOF similarities, did you find the rendering in general to be very similar? Would you be likely to keep both set-ups for any reason? Or do they overlap so much that there is little point? Of course, the larger aperture on the 24 is nice.


The rendering is very similar. Colors, contrast and OOF harshness when shooting a mid and long distances.
It's hard to tell them apart, except that I find the 35/2.8 ZA sharper wide open throughout the entire field. It's also better corrected for LoCA despite of its smaller size.



Sep 06, 2017 at 03:20 AM
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The rendering is very similar. Colors, contrast and OOF harshness when shooting a mid and long distances.
It's hard to tell them apart, except that I find the 35/2.8 ZA sharper wide open throughout the entire field. It's also better corrected for LoCA despite of its smaller size.


That really is a very interesting comparison. I feel like there is a lot that could be learned from it--two very different rigs with similar image qualities. And I guess the difference in sensor size cancels the difference in max aperture, at least to some extent.




Sep 06, 2017 at 03:23 AM
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chiron wrote:
That really is a very interesting comparison. I feel like there is a lot that could be learned from it--two very different rigs with similar image qualities. And I guess the difference in sensor size cancels the difference in max aperture, at least to some extent.



Yes, basically you get similar blur:

24mm x 1.5 = 36mm
f/1.8 x 1.5 = f/2.7

So... 35/2.8 equiv.

You get to shoot at lower ISOs on the A6500 (with the f/1.8 lens) but once you downsize the 42MP to 24MP, noise levels also pretty much equalize.



Sep 06, 2017 at 03:27 AM
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I'm new to the forum but have been reading through a lot of the Sony threads for the past few weeks. I really admire and appreciate how Fred tends to remain very objective regarding lens performance - letting his excellent testing examples speak for themselves. Really a great resource here and one that does away with alot of the subjective bickering that tends to overrun sites like dpr.

So earlier in this thread Jochenb was claiming that the 35 ZA has strange dof behavior - when stopping down dof only increases in the foreground but not behind the subject. Did you have a chance to test this out Fred? It doesn't seem like there's any way that this is correct so I'm really curious.



Sep 06, 2017 at 05:03 AM
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twomblywhite wrote:
So earlier in this thread Jochenb was claiming that the 35 ZA has strange dof behavior - when stopping down dof only increases in the foreground but not behind the subject. Did you have a chance to test this out Fred? It doesn't seem like there's any way that this is correct so I'm really curious.


My copy really did this. I tested it numerous times. When I replaced it with the FE 35/1.4 I never noticed such things.
I only tried one, but at Diglloyd (paid section) the same weird behavior was later also mentioned.
It can still be sample variation ofcourse.




Sep 06, 2017 at 12:52 PM
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twomblywhite wrote:
I'm new to the forum but have been reading through a lot of the Sony threads for the past few weeks. I really admire and appreciate how Fred tends to remain very objective regarding lens performance - letting his excellent testing examples speak for themselves. Really a great resource here and one that does away with alot of the subjective bickering that tends to overrun sites like dpr.

So earlier in this thread Jochenb was claiming that the 35 ZA has strange dof behavior - when stopping down dof only increases in the foreground but not behind the subject. Did you
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Thanks and welcome to FM!
I confess I was curious about this but forgot to give it a try.



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