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p.23 #1 · p.23 #1 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I had the same observation with the one that I rented. I found it to be quite a bit slower than my batis 85 and it felt relatively noisy. I'm curious to try a few other ones to see if it's the same. I have to admit the image quality was excellent though. I was also shooting indoors for a wedding, never got to see what the af speed was like out in the sun.

isuperfish wrote:
Hi everyone, I just got a copy of this great lens a few days ago, but I've noticed the AF speed is a bit slower than both of my Batis, and relatively much louder (both Batis are silent). Does it present as a general behavior for this lens? I saw some reviews stated its AF is "quite and fast" but some videos I found online suggested similar noise. Thanks!




Oct 19, 2016 at 04:37 AM
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p.23 #2 · p.23 #2 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Thanks for replying. I think based on my research online it's normal, I feel the focus could be fixed since in AF-C mode it focuses faster and also doesn't present the wobbling behavior.


Oct 19, 2016 at 06:14 AM
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p.23 #3 · p.23 #3 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Any more pics? This is my favorite thread


Oct 31, 2016 at 03:07 AM
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p.23 #4 · p.23 #4 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


jw112 wrote:
Any more pics? This is my favorite thread

belly by Johnavon, on Flickr

I've but my 50mm 1.4 on ice, but heres a shot when I scoping places for photoshoots I tok on the 50mm 1.4 at 1.4



Oct 31, 2016 at 05:24 AM
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p.23 #5 · p.23 #5 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


freaklikeme wrote:
Has anyone else run into a problem with EXIF from their a7rII after using the FE 50? Someone on flickr pointed out that all of my recent shots I posted, mostly from adapted lenses, now have the 50 in the EXIF.


Well, it was either outdated firmware (I thought I had upgraded it at the same time I did the 7II I was putting up for sale, but I only downloaded it) or a LR update, but the problem's gone now.



Nov 02, 2016 at 01:13 AM
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p.23 #6 · p.23 #6 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


isuperfish wrote:
Hi everyone, I just got a copy of this great lens a few days ago, but I've noticed the AF speed is a bit slower than both of my Batis, and relatively much louder (both Batis are silent). Does it present as a general behavior for this lens? I saw some reviews stated its AF is "quite and fast" but some videos I found online suggested similar noise. Thanks!


It's definitely slower when compared to the 55/1.8 ZA and just as noisy as my FE 85/1.4GM. It's also easier to focus with the 55/1.8 ZA in low light since the aperture opens to f/2 to achieve focus whereas with the 50/1.4 ZA focuses at or very close to shooting aperture.



Nov 25, 2016 at 04:00 PM
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p.23 #7 · p.23 #7 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Does anyone have a big problem with flare? Like are you force to always used the hood or is it a normal amount of flare?




Jan 08, 2017 at 07:03 PM
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p.23 #8 · p.23 #8 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I just received my 50/1.4 ZA today. I'm a recentish convert to A7RII from Canon (7 months now and haven't touched my Canons once). I've been slowly building a native lens collection over this time and had a 50mm gap to fill in my autofocus prime lineup. I have an Otus 55 (on Metabones IV) which is a fantastic piece of glass, best I've ever owned, but I sometimes struggled using it in fast moving event and wedding type shoots. So an autofocus equivalent was needed. Research showed the ZA looked best and this thread tipped me into actually buying it yesterday.

Initial tests show a larger quality (sharpness) jump between f/1.4 and f/1.7 than I expected, but the lens is pixel sharp from f/1.7 on, and f/1.4 is perfectly fine "as is". Lovely flat frame and colour rendition too. Very pleased with the lens. In fact, I was a bit worried that it may have made my Otus 1.4/55 redundant, but I'm relieved to report the Otus does still "edge" the ZA - in wide-open image quality at least. A little close for comfort tho - phew

Anyway, I just joined to say "great thread and thanks to everyone for taking the time to share the info".

Cheers



Jan 21, 2017 at 01:59 PM
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p.23 #9 · p.23 #9 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


It's a awesome lens.


Jan 21, 2017 at 03:46 PM
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p.23 #10 · p.23 #10 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


jw112 wrote:
Any more pics? This is my favorite thread



Here are a few with it mounted on the 6500




























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p.23 #11 · p.23 #11 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I'm not sure if this got posted here already.

DXOMark has the results for the FE 50/1.4 ZA.

According to them, transmission is close to the 55/1.8. (T1.8 vs T1.6)
All other metrics are also very similar like: Little advantage for the 50/1.4 in sharpness (41 vs 40) and CA (8Ám vs 9Ám). (However, we know for a fact that the 55/1.8 has way more LoCA)
Vignetting is better for the 55/1.8 (-1.6EV vc -2.5EV) and the 50/1.4 does better regarding distortion. (0.1% vs 0.4%)

Here is a comparison to the FE 55/1.8 ZA and Loxia 50/2:

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Sonnar-T-STAR-55mm-F18-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Plannar-T-STAR-50mm-F14-ZA-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Zeiss-Carl-Zeiss-Loxia-50mm-F2-Sony-FE-on-Sony-A7R-II__1252_1035_1725_1035_1400_1035



Jan 23, 2017 at 06:22 AM
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p.23 #12 · p.23 #12 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I'm not sure if this got posted here already.

DXOMark has the results for the FE 50/1.4 ZA.

According to them, transmission is close to the 55/1.8. (T1.8 vs T1.6)
All other metrics are also very similar like: Little advantage for the 50/1.4 in sharpness (41 vs 40) and CA (8Ám vs 9Ám). (However, we know for a fact that the 55/1.8 has way more LoCA)
Vignetting is better for the 55/1.8 (-1.6EV vc -2.5EV) and the 50/1.4 does better regarding distortion. (0.1% vs 0.4%)

Here is a comparison to the FE 55/1.8 ZA and Loxia 50/2:

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Sonnar-T-STAR-55mm-F18-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Plannar-T-STAR-50mm-F14-ZA-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Zeiss-Carl-Zeiss-Loxia-50mm-F2-Sony-FE-on-Sony-A7R-II__1252_1035_1725_1035_1400_1035


One small thing from the DXO review which tells in its favour for many: best at f=2.0!

That I'm sure makes it better at f2 than my 1.8/55 at f2, though that'll do me for AF 59s...



Jan 23, 2017 at 08:30 AM
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p.23 #13 · p.23 #13 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I think the DXO results can give us some insights, and discussion points:

1. The 55mm is amazing for its size, and (particularly on the used/grey market) costs.

2. The 50mm f/1.4 is a lot more about look than pure resolution. It's about bokeh, and lack of LoCa, and about rendering intent. (The same can be said of the Loxia, actually.)

3. We really need Lightroom (and the others) to implement a LoCa removal tool. A combination of lens profiles, a little computer image analysis (look for focus gradient and signature color shifts), and a full-manual option (draw gradient, adjust LoCa correction amplitude)-- would eliminate this bane of my existence effectively.



Jan 23, 2017 at 08:52 AM
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p.23 #14 · p.23 #14 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


"When pressed what Sony considered best bokeh, they referred to the a-mount 135 STF."
Well, at least they are upfront about it, can't ask much more. Smoother=better to Sony.

Might be of interest if not already posted:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/comparative-review-sony-fe-50mm-f1-4-za-vs-55mm-f1-8-za

"Roger Cicala over at LensRentals found the Sony 50mm F1.4 lens to be the sharpest centrally of any 50mm prime, outperforming the 55mm F1.8 ZA. However, peripherally, the 50/1.4 takes a plunge in terms of resolution, and the 55mm F1.8 pulls ahead. In fact, just 4mm out from center in the image circle, tangential resolution (which we assess by considering the highest frequency MTF trace: 50 lp/mm) drops below that of the 55/1.8 (solid purple line). Source: LensRentals Blog"

It's flattish curves are what drives the FE55 images, very different lenses with different main uses.



Jan 23, 2017 at 09:06 AM
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p.23 #15 · p.23 #15 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I was surprised that DXO ranks the 55/1.8 above the 50/1.4 and Loxia 50. Personally I would rank it third of the three.

I guess this shows the limitations of a DXO score -- I don't particularly need a flat field at f/1.8, I'd much rather have the better color/contrast and lower LoCA of the the other two lenses.



Jan 23, 2017 at 12:16 PM
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p.23 #16 · p.23 #16 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


MrTMan wrote:
I was surprised that DXO ranks the 55/1.8 above the 50/1.4 and Loxia 50. Personally I would rank it third of the three.

I guess this shows the limitations of a DXO score -- I don't particularly need a flat field at f/1.8, I'd much rather have the better color/contrast and lower LoCA of the the other two lenses.


I think that's because you are referring to micro-contrast and color which DXOMark does not test. They also do not test for LoCA. (Only LaCA)
Like you, I would rate the 55/1.8 ZA third in term in contrast and aberration.

The 50/1.4ZA and 55/1.8ZA are very similar in terms of resolution when both are compared wide-open. The 50/1.4 really shows its strength starting at f/1.7.

The 55/1.8 ZA is smaller but needs more post-processing help. I have a LR preset which pretty much mimics the contrast/colors from the 50/1.4 but what's hard to fix is onion ring patterns and LoCA which the 50/1.4 is pretty much immune to.



Jan 23, 2017 at 03:45 PM
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p.23 #17 · p.23 #17 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


how is this lens compare to Sigma 50ART?


Jan 23, 2017 at 10:28 PM
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p.23 #18 · p.23 #18 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Bubble wrote:
how is this lens compare to Sigma 50ART?


According to the same tester (DXOMark), it has pretty bad transmission for a f/1.4 lens (T1.8), the same transmission as the 55/1.8ZA.

The Sigma has pretty much the same sharpness as both Sony lenses but less vignetting when compared to the 50/1.4 ZA. However, the Sony lenses would get a bump in sharpness (resolution) if tested on a 50MP sensor instead of 42MP.

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Sigma/Sigma-50mm-F14-DG-HSM-A-Canon-mounted-on-Canon-EOS-5DS-R__1009



Jan 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM
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p.23 #19 · p.23 #19 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I mentioned it previously when discussing the 50/1.4 ZA (perhaps even on this thread),
"sharpness" is really not the deciding factor between the 1.4, 55/1.8 (or even the Sigma 50/1.4). They are ALL really damn sharp (that's a technical term).

I may be the only one to think this way, but i had the 35/1.4 ZA, 50/1.4 ZA, 55/1.8 ZA and 85/GM and sold the 35, 55 & 85. I really just loved the rendering of the 50/1.4 (and really hated the rendering of the 55/1.8). ymwLv (Your mileage will LIKELY vary).



Jan 23, 2017 at 11:48 PM
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ecarlino wrote:
I mentioned it previously when discussing the 50/1.4 ZA (perhaps even on this thread),
"sharpness" is really not the deciding factor between the 1.4, 55/1.8 (or even the Sigma 50/1.4). They are ALL really damn sharp (that's a technical term).

I may be the only one to think this way, but i had the 35/1.4 ZA, 50/1.4 ZA, 55/1.8 ZA and 85/GM and sold the 35, 55 & 85. I really just loved the rendering of the 50/1.4 (and really hated the rendering of the 55/1.8). ymwLv (Your mileage will LIKELY vary).


I can understand replacing the 55mm but you actually sold your 35mm and 85mm in exchange for a 50mm? You must really love that rendering!



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