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p.23 #1 · p.23 #1 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


It's a awesome lens.


Jan 21, 2017 at 03:46 PM
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jw112 wrote:
Any more pics? This is my favorite thread



Here are a few with it mounted on the 6500




























Jan 22, 2017 at 09:56 PM
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p.23 #3 · p.23 #3 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I'm not sure if this got posted here already.

DXOMark has the results for the FE 50/1.4 ZA.

According to them, transmission is close to the 55/1.8. (T1.8 vs T1.6)
All other metrics are also very similar like: Little advantage for the 50/1.4 in sharpness (41 vs 40) and CA (8Ám vs 9Ám). (However, we know for a fact that the 55/1.8 has way more LoCA)
Vignetting is better for the 55/1.8 (-1.6EV vc -2.5EV) and the 50/1.4 does better regarding distortion. (0.1% vs 0.4%)

Here is a comparison to the FE 55/1.8 ZA and Loxia 50/2:

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Sonnar-T-STAR-55mm-F18-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Plannar-T-STAR-50mm-F14-ZA-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Zeiss-Carl-Zeiss-Loxia-50mm-F2-Sony-FE-on-Sony-A7R-II__1252_1035_1725_1035_1400_1035



Jan 23, 2017 at 06:22 AM
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p.23 #4 · p.23 #4 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I'm not sure if this got posted here already.

DXOMark has the results for the FE 50/1.4 ZA.

According to them, transmission is close to the 55/1.8. (T1.8 vs T1.6)
All other metrics are also very similar like: Little advantage for the 50/1.4 in sharpness (41 vs 40) and CA (8Ám vs 9Ám). (However, we know for a fact that the 55/1.8 has way more LoCA)
Vignetting is better for the 55/1.8 (-1.6EV vc -2.5EV) and the 50/1.4 does better regarding distortion. (0.1% vs 0.4%)

Here is a comparison to the FE 55/1.8 ZA and Loxia 50/2:

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Sonnar-T-STAR-55mm-F18-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Plannar-T-STAR-50mm-F14-ZA-on-Sony-A7R-II-versus-Zeiss-Carl-Zeiss-Loxia-50mm-F2-Sony-FE-on-Sony-A7R-II__1252_1035_1725_1035_1400_1035


One small thing from the DXO review which tells in its favour for many: best at f=2.0!

That I'm sure makes it better at f2 than my 1.8/55 at f2, though that'll do me for AF 59s...



Jan 23, 2017 at 08:30 AM
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p.23 #5 · p.23 #5 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I think the DXO results can give us some insights, and discussion points:

1. The 55mm is amazing for its size, and (particularly on the used/grey market) costs.

2. The 50mm f/1.4 is a lot more about look than pure resolution. It's about bokeh, and lack of LoCa, and about rendering intent. (The same can be said of the Loxia, actually.)

3. We really need Lightroom (and the others) to implement a LoCa removal tool. A combination of lens profiles, a little computer image analysis (look for focus gradient and signature color shifts), and a full-manual option (draw gradient, adjust LoCa correction amplitude)-- would eliminate this bane of my existence effectively.



Jan 23, 2017 at 08:52 AM
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p.23 #6 · p.23 #6 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


"When pressed what Sony considered best bokeh, they referred to the a-mount 135 STF."
Well, at least they are upfront about it, can't ask much more. Smoother=better to Sony.

Might be of interest if not already posted:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/comparative-review-sony-fe-50mm-f1-4-za-vs-55mm-f1-8-za

"Roger Cicala over at LensRentals found the Sony 50mm F1.4 lens to be the sharpest centrally of any 50mm prime, outperforming the 55mm F1.8 ZA. However, peripherally, the 50/1.4 takes a plunge in terms of resolution, and the 55mm F1.8 pulls ahead. In fact, just 4mm out from center in the image circle, tangential resolution (which we assess by considering the highest frequency MTF trace: 50 lp/mm) drops below that of the 55/1.8 (solid purple line). Source: LensRentals Blog"

It's flattish curves are what drives the FE55 images, very different lenses with different main uses.



Jan 23, 2017 at 09:06 AM
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p.23 #7 · p.23 #7 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I was surprised that DXO ranks the 55/1.8 above the 50/1.4 and Loxia 50. Personally I would rank it third of the three.

I guess this shows the limitations of a DXO score -- I don't particularly need a flat field at f/1.8, I'd much rather have the better color/contrast and lower LoCA of the the other two lenses.



Jan 23, 2017 at 12:16 PM
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p.23 #8 · p.23 #8 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


MrTMan wrote:
I was surprised that DXO ranks the 55/1.8 above the 50/1.4 and Loxia 50. Personally I would rank it third of the three.

I guess this shows the limitations of a DXO score -- I don't particularly need a flat field at f/1.8, I'd much rather have the better color/contrast and lower LoCA of the the other two lenses.


I think that's because you are referring to micro-contrast and color which DXOMark does not test. They also do not test for LoCA. (Only LaCA)
Like you, I would rate the 55/1.8 ZA third in term in contrast and aberration.

The 50/1.4ZA and 55/1.8ZA are very similar in terms of resolution when both are compared wide-open. The 50/1.4 really shows its strength starting at f/1.7.

The 55/1.8 ZA is smaller but needs more post-processing help. I have a LR preset which pretty much mimics the contrast/colors from the 50/1.4 but what's hard to fix is onion ring patterns and LoCA which the 50/1.4 is pretty much immune to.



Jan 23, 2017 at 03:45 PM
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p.23 #9 · p.23 #9 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


how is this lens compare to Sigma 50ART?


Jan 23, 2017 at 10:28 PM
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Bubble wrote:
how is this lens compare to Sigma 50ART?


According to the same tester (DXOMark), it has pretty bad transmission for a f/1.4 lens (T1.8), the same transmission as the 55/1.8ZA.

The Sigma has pretty much the same sharpness as both Sony lenses but less vignetting when compared to the 50/1.4 ZA. However, the Sony lenses would get a bump in sharpness (resolution) if tested on a 50MP sensor instead of 42MP.

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Sigma/Sigma-50mm-F14-DG-HSM-A-Canon-mounted-on-Canon-EOS-5DS-R__1009



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p.23 #11 · p.23 #11 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


I mentioned it previously when discussing the 50/1.4 ZA (perhaps even on this thread),
"sharpness" is really not the deciding factor between the 1.4, 55/1.8 (or even the Sigma 50/1.4). They are ALL really damn sharp (that's a technical term).

I may be the only one to think this way, but i had the 35/1.4 ZA, 50/1.4 ZA, 55/1.8 ZA and 85/GM and sold the 35, 55 & 85. I really just loved the rendering of the 50/1.4 (and really hated the rendering of the 55/1.8). ymwLv (Your mileage will LIKELY vary).



Jan 23, 2017 at 11:48 PM
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p.23 #12 · p.23 #12 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


ecarlino wrote:
I mentioned it previously when discussing the 50/1.4 ZA (perhaps even on this thread),
"sharpness" is really not the deciding factor between the 1.4, 55/1.8 (or even the Sigma 50/1.4). They are ALL really damn sharp (that's a technical term).

I may be the only one to think this way, but i had the 35/1.4 ZA, 50/1.4 ZA, 55/1.8 ZA and 85/GM and sold the 35, 55 & 85. I really just loved the rendering of the 50/1.4 (and really hated the rendering of the 55/1.8). ymwLv (Your mileage will LIKELY vary).


I can understand replacing the 55mm but you actually sold your 35mm and 85mm in exchange for a 50mm? You must really love that rendering!



Jan 24, 2017 at 12:08 AM
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p.23 #13 · p.23 #13 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


For portrait primes, I've had 35/1.4 ZA, 50/1.4 ZA, 55/1.8 ZA, Batis 85, Canon FD 85/1.2L, Leica Sumicron 90AA and 135/1.8 ZA. Of these, 50/1.4 is my favorite, with the 135 close second. The 50 is laser sharp with bold colors and contrast, and somehow looks organic and not sterile. I do NOT like the weight and bulk, but oh well...


Jan 24, 2017 at 12:14 AM
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p.23 #14 · p.23 #14 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I can understand replacing the 55mm but you actually sold your 35mm and 85mm in exchange for a 50mm? You must really love that rendering!


it did pain me to sell the 35 & 85, but once i decided on the 50, it was simply that spacing was just "too close together" - along with having 18, 25, 35, 50, & 85 was just "too much" for me to travel - even though i'd usually only walk around with 25 & 50 or 35 & 85.

i also sold the Batis 25 b/c i'm keen to see how the 16-35GM performs. i hedged myself and didn't sell the Batis 18 yet. So, i'll either get the zoom (and sell the 18) or skip the zoom and buy back the Batis 25 (more likely). And then add either the rumored 105 or 135. That'll make a nice 3 or 4 lens kit.

in any case, long story short, i found the 50/1.4 as appealing for my use as the 35/1.4 and 85/1.4 and while everything was still reselling very close to what i paid for it, i decided to clean house.



























Jan 24, 2017 at 12:35 AM
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p.23 #15 · p.23 #15 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


@ecarlino
I remember these pictures. Beautiful family!



Jan 24, 2017 at 01:12 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
According to the same tester (DXOMark), it has pretty bad transmission for a f/1.4 lens (T1.8), the same transmission as the 55/1.8ZA.

The Sigma has pretty much the same sharpness as both Sony lenses but less vignetting when compared to the 50/1.4 ZA. However, the Sony lenses would get a bump in sharpness (resolution) if tested on a 50MP sensor instead of 42MP.

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Sigma/Sigma-50mm-F14-DG-HSM-A-Canon-mounted-on-Canon-EOS-5DS-R__1009


The reason i asked is because i have the 50ART with the MC-11. I'm happy with the Art with my A7r ii. Am i missing out something if i don't get the 50/1.4 ZA? Disregard cost/weight issue.



Jan 24, 2017 at 01:18 AM
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p.23 #17 · p.23 #17 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Bubble wrote:
The reason i asked is because i have the 50ART with the MC-11. I'm happy with the Art with my A7r ii. Am i missing out something if i don't get the 50/1.4 ZA? Disregard cost/weight issue.


I agree with @ecarlino that the Zeiss 50/1.4 ZA has a very special rendering. The focus transition zone is smooth and the lens draws bold colors and very high micro-contrast. It's is also very well corrected for aberrations.. IMO, from the native lenses, it's the one with the most pop.

Like the 55/1.8 it's sharp across the field even at wider apertures.

I'm sure the Sigma is great as well but I have not test it on the A7RII.



Jan 24, 2017 at 01:24 AM
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p.23 #18 · p.23 #18 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I agree with @ecarlino@ that the Zeiss 50/1.4 ZA has a very special rendering. The focus transition zone is smooth and the lens draws bold colors and very high micro-contrast. It's is also very well corrected for aberrations.. IMO, from the native lenses, it's the one with the most pop.

Like the 55/1.8 it's sharp across the field even at wider apertures.


the reason is (re)posted was to remind myself, and maybe the 1 other person who may care :-) that despite all the talk about the sharpness of this lens (or the others), it actually can be quite 'graceful' as well. the 55/1.8 just seemed harsh in the OOF areas, etc.


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Jan 24, 2017 at 01:50 AM
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p.23 #19 · p.23 #19 · Sony Planar T* FE 50/1.4 ZA Rolling Review


Lovely images, sharp, with a lot of 3D.


Jan 24, 2017 at 02:52 AM
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First time shooting an A7RII (First time shooting anything but my Ricoh GR).

Messing around with a Zeiss 50f1.4 wide open & manual

Laura by Jme, on Flickr

Laura by Jme, on Flickr

Laura by Jme, on Flickr

Laura by Jme, on Flickr



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