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Blakehfreeman wrote:
Arka, I haven't shot with the Sony E mount since I sold my A7r... let me know which system you like better once you receive your D850... I'm very curious!

I can't ask most Sony fanboys as they normally hyperventilate or flame out mid argument/discussion.

EDIT: My biggest issue is I'll never part with my 200mm 2.0VRII and am worried how that would work adapted to Sony. Also, the 105mm 1.4 is killer!




If prior Nikon experience is any guide, I expect my feelings on the usability of the cameras will break down like this:
(1) Both cameras will be extremely usable ergonomically, but I will love the portability of my Sony system as I've configured it (read, with relatively few Sony lenses, no Sony f/1.4 primes, and an unholy triad of Summiluxes spanning 3 decades of manufacture on a TechArt Pro adapter);
(2) I'm going to love the D850's illuminated buttons for my night time landscape work. I don't get much of a chance to do that anymore, but that camera will probably drive me out into the wilderness again, perhaps just so I can enjoy that little convenience on a dark, cold night in some remote location.
(3) I'm going to love the image quality on the D850. I'm very happy with the A9 for the work I am doing on it, but I suspect landscapes will truly sing when captured on that 46MP D850 sensor.
(4) I'm going to be torn between the Nikon 105 f/1.4G and Leica 75mm f/1.4 Summilux M as a favorite portrait lens - It's going to be hard for me to choose from the very different looks they offer wide open, though I suspect I'll get more consistent output from the Nikon portrait lens.
(5) I'm going to like the Summilux 35 on my Sony better than the 35mm Sigma Art on my D850. But I'll end up keeping both.
(6) I'm not going to find a 50mm lens for the D850 that I will like more than the 50mm Summilux on my A9, so I won't even bother trying.
(7) The D850 is going to be my backpacking camera, which is ironic given that it weighs a lot more than my Sony A9. The reason? It'll the ultimate landscape camera for me... the A9 can do a great job in that area, but the D850 will not compromise on anything except weight. I'm also going to love the 14-24 on it, as much as Ioved it on my D700 and D800.
(8) The A9 is the camera that will accompany me on travels to cities - either for business or pleasure - where photography is a priority but not the sole purpose of the trip. The A9 will also be my preferred camera for family photojournalism, and for my regular walks around L.A. where I just wander around and take pictures of things and people. It's really hard to argue with its extremely light weight in comparison to the Nikon D8xx cameras and accompanying lenses.

But these are all guesses. The proof will be in when I actually get the camera in hand and gaze lovingly at the files it generates.



Nov 07, 2017 at 12:24 AM
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Both are excellent systems and they have theirs strengths. If I am on the beach and using a 70-200/2.8E the D810 or D850 is awesome! Yes you have the IBIS with the A7rII, but it is the system of both the camera and lens that is important. It is almost like you need to forget the body initially and really look at the lenses you use and are passionate about. As mentioned if I was dedicated landscape shooter the A7rII/A7rIII with Batis 18, 25 or Loxia 21or the Leica WATE are superb combinations and probably a better option if weight/size is the main consideration. However for portraits, I never found the A7rII or XT2 to be as responsive as my D750 for the style of portraits I do. I am certain that next iterations will be great, but for now it is hard to beat the DSLR's for dynamic, fast AF let alone the options you have.

Personally if you have the budget for both go for the A7rIII alongside, but look carefully at the lenses you need
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Blakehfreeman wrote:
Arka, I haven't shot with the Sony E mount since I sold my A7r... let me know which system you like better once you receive your D850... I'm very curious!

I can't ask most Sony fanboys as they normally hyperventilate or flame out mid argument/discussion.

EDIT: My biggest issue is I'll never part with my 200mm 2.0VRII and am worried how that would work adapted to Sony. Also, the 105mm 1.4 is killer!






Nov 07, 2017 at 12:26 AM
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p.144 #3 · p.144 #3 · Nikon 105mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


I知 in the same boat... I値l never part with my 200f2 or my 105 1.4.
Now that I see that the 105 is working with eye af with the commlite Pro on A9 I知 wondering if I should test it on the a7riii before getting the D850......
Pretty torn

Blakehfreeman wrote:
Arka, I haven't shot with the Sony E mount since I sold my A7r... let me know which system you like better once you receive your D850... I'm very curious!

I can't ask most Sony fanboys as they normally hyperventilate or flame out mid argument/discussion.

EDIT: My biggest issue is I'll never part with my 200mm 2.0VRII and am worried how that would work adapted to Sony. Also, the 105mm 1.4 is killer!





Nov 07, 2017 at 12:42 AM
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You need to think seriously about using adapted lenses whether it is Canon or Nikon. Native lenses will always be better. I frustrated myself no end using the ZA 135/1.8, 85L II, 50L and 135L on the A7rII. These lens I have always loved and worked nicely, but for serious work it was incredibly frustrating.

With the utmost respect to Arka, I would not use Leica M lenses on the Sony's again. My intention still is to acquire a M10 with Leica M lenses as my compact/small/light to go system.


J.Marcus Photo wrote:
I知 in the same boat... I値l never part with my 200f2 or my 105 1.4.
Now that I see that the 105 is working with eye af with the commlite Pro on A9 I知 wondering if I should test it on the a7riii before getting the D850......
Pretty torn





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Nov 07, 2017 at 12:48 AM
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I know..... I知 wondering how close the face detection on the D850 is to the eye af on Sony...
I just hate being constricted to the small area of point with DSLRs since I usually frame towards the top corners.

I did see a video of facial recognition working decently in live view on the D850 .... but then your back to the 2 second blackout in between shots..... seems there is no way to get everything I need

charles.K wrote:
You need to think seriously about using adapted lenses whether it is Canon or Nikon if you are serious. Native lenses will always be better. I frustrated myself no end using the ZA 135/1.8, 85L II, 50L and 135L on the A7rII. These lens I have always loved and worked nicely, but for serious work it was incredibly frustrating.






Nov 07, 2017 at 12:52 AM
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charles.K wrote:
With the utmost respect to Arka, I would not use Leica M lenses on the Sony's again. My intention still is to acquire a M10 with Leica M lenses as my compact/small/light to go system.


I seriously considered an M10 for my M lenses, as I loved the M240 despite its many, many operational quirks. But the lack of video and the continuing sluggishness of the electronics in Leica's "state of the art," particularly as compared to the A9, turned me away. The M10 is a lovely camera, but lacks the "ready to shoot" responsiveness and basic feature set I would expect of a camera costing nearly $7000. The SL, at $6000, is unsuitable for my preferences at multiple levels - very high cost, good but not exceptional imaging performance, enormous size/weight, and middling AF performance (and of course, no AF on M lenses).

What I like about the A9 as a platform for M lenses is the near miracle of being able to use them as either AF or MF lenses without the mechanical vulnerabilities of a rangefinder - a method I loved to use but nonetheless had to get calibrated twice on my M240, along with lenses. I much prefer EVFs for manual focusing since they render rangefinder coupling and focus shift issues largely obsolete, and don't require the use of magnifiers for long lenses, or accessory finders for wide ones.

I've noticed that stopped down, corner performance on some of the Leica lenses suffers a little vis-a-vis my old M240 images, but I'm increasingly finding that's a flaw I can more live with given my substantially increased keeper rate of images shot using AF wide open. Plus, this thing is so light... if only there were a way to put these Leicas on my incoming D850 as well. I would love a world where I could use all of my favorite lenses on any camera I want with modest compromise.



Nov 07, 2017 at 05:29 AM
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Y誕ll need a Nikon FF mirrorless with good eye AF. I知 sure any Nikon attempt will be able focus well with existing F mount lenses.
We probably don稚 have to wait too long to see one.



Nov 07, 2017 at 07:22 AM
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Arka wrote:
I seriously considered an M10 for my M lenses, as I loved the M240 despite its many, many operational quirks. But the lack of video and the continuing sluggishness of the electronics in Leica's "state of the art," particularly as compared to the A9, turned me away. The M10 is a lovely camera, but lacks the "ready to shoot" responsiveness and basic feature set I would expect of a camera costing nearly $7000.


Other than no video option, what do you mean lacks 途eady to shoot responsiveness?
My M10 is phenomenal in every aspect. I couldn稚 ask for more out of the Leica. They really hit the spot with M10 design and features.
Comparing the M10 to A9 is just plain ridiculous. They池e completely two different horses.

You池e saying sluggish... for example, I was seriously impressed with how M10 handles WiFi and it痴 features. Much better than my D750.



Nov 07, 2017 at 11:22 AM
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You can actually now use Nikon lenses on Sony Camera's? and does the AF work correctly?


Nov 07, 2017 at 02:22 PM
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As of now I think the a9 is the only one that has firmware to use the eye af on the commlite Pro adapter.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1492553/13#14243763

agelessphotog wrote:
You can actually now use Nikon lenses on Sony Camera's? and does the AF work correctly?



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Elijah wrote:
Other than no video option, what do you mean lacks 途eady to shoot responsiveness?
My M10 is phenomenal in every aspect. I couldn稚 ask for more out of the Leica. They really hit the spot with M10 design and features.
Comparing the M10 to A9 is just plain ridiculous. They池e completely two different horses.

You池e saying sluggish... for example, I was seriously impressed with how M10 handles WiFi and it痴 features. Much better than my D750.


I don't want to hijack the 105mm f/1.4 thread too much further, so I'll summarize the below by saying - the M10 was not a suitable upgrade over the M240 for my needs and wants. I'm glad the M10 is working out well for you, but it was never going to be satisfactory to me - that became very clear to me after borrowing it for a weekend.

I was and still am a big fan of Leica, especially their lenses. I'd probably buy something like an interchangeable lens Q minus the rangefinder. But as of now, I won't limit my beloved M glass to M cameras. Why? Lots of reasons big and small. One example - it's baffling to me that the start-up time of the M10 is not significantly improved over the M240, and that startup time depends, at least in part, on the type of SD card in the slot. My 1D Mark II from 2003 had instant startup, but a $6500 camera in 2017 still requires up to 2s to get ready to shoot? That's unacceptable. I worked around it on the M240 by letting it go to sleep. but this was something that I felt Leica really needed to improve, and they didn't. More decisive for me than that, though, was the loss of video capability. I have used video on the M240 on countless occasions to capture irreplaceable memories. I refuse to give up that option on my daily-use camera.

Also, I don't agree that A9 and M240 can't be compared. The M and Alpha cameras are imaging equipment capable of utilizing M-lenses - those similarities alone makes them comparable. So, that's exactly what I did. You may think it ridiculous, but I'm glad I considered the option and moved my M glass over to the Alpha platform - I am much happier and generating more images I love, often using lenses that would have been very difficult for me to master on the M (e.g., Summilux 75 f/1.4 wide open... I struggled mightily to master the 90mm f/2, often resorting to the 1.4x magnifier). I wanted a lightweight, fun-to-use, high IQ camera capable of dealing better withy moving subjects than my M240. For those considerations, the A9 came out way ahead, $2000 cheaper, and without a wait list. Also I can autofocus Leica M lenses on it! What a powerful capability to have for moving subjects! No more worrying about focus shift, rangefinders or lenses going out of calibration, slow startup, and middling high ISO performance. And there's almost class-leading mirrorless video performance. I couldn't be happier.


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In need to live by some M10 users so I too can borrow one! 😡

Arka wrote:
I'm glad the M10 is working out well for you, but it was never going to be satisfactory to me - that became very clear to me after borrowing it for a weekend. I was and still am a big fan of Leica, especially their lenses. I'd probably buy something like an interchangeable lens Q minus the rangefinder. But as of now, I won't limit my beloved M glass to M cameras. Why? Lots of reasons big and small. One example - it's baffling to me that the start-up time of the M10 is not significantly improved over the M240,
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Blakehfreeman wrote:
In need to live by some M10 users so I too can borrow one! 😡



There's a lot of them in Los Angeles! Also plenty of rental options. Samy's will actually give you an SL for a weekend if you want to try it out.



Nov 07, 2017 at 08:00 PM
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Thanks! I was being a bit silly saying I wished I could mooch off someone so I'd stop debating adding one to my kit. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Arka wrote:
There's a lot of them in Los Angeles! Also plenty of rental options. Samy's will actually give you an SL for a weekend if you want to try it out.




Nov 07, 2017 at 08:28 PM
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Shot in Maromme, France

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DSC_7053-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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DSC_7065-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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DSC_7147-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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DSC_7150-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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DSC_7159-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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Love the first set and the last image, great work as usual!

jefonyx wrote:
Shot in Maromme, France

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4454/26475886639_9d4cbf94f6_b.jpgDSC_7053-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4550/26475885989_2e808553f4_b.jpgDSC_7065-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4458/26475885209_2454fc3b3b_b.jpgDSC_7069-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4528/26475884639_827b30556a_b.jpgDSC_7073-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4548/38220190542_e3c4803e6d_b.jpgDSC_7099-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4522/38220189752_716daa128b_b.jpgDSC_7114-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4444/38220189172_acb30928de_b.jpgDSC_7147-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4518/26475876919_42fc574bf0_b.jpgDSC_7150-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4535/26475875299_5bce0b803a_b.jpgDSC_7159-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/38251695461_98e08c35c6_b.jpgDSC_7167-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr




Nov 07, 2017 at 11:23 PM
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Jean-Fran輟is, wonderful series !!! Love the lighting.


Nov 07, 2017 at 11:39 PM
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jefonyx wrote:
Shot in Maromme, France

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4454/26475886639_9d4cbf94f6_b.jpgDSC_7053-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4550/26475885989_2e808553f4_b.jpgDSC_7065-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4458/26475885209_2454fc3b3b_b.jpgDSC_7069-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4528/26475884639_827b30556a_b.jpgDSC_7073-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4548/38220190542_e3c4803e6d_b.jpgDSC_7099-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4522/38220189752_716daa128b_b.jpgDSC_7114-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4444/38220189172_acb30928de_b.jpgDSC_7147-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4518/26475876919_42fc574bf0_b.jpgDSC_7150-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4535/26475875299_5bce0b803a_b.jpgDSC_7159-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/38251695461_98e08c35c6_b.jpgDSC_7167-Modifier by jef Q, sur Flickr


And than you for putting us back on track!



Nov 08, 2017 at 01:02 AM
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Shots from yesterday's cloth photo shot for Alex





  NIKON D850    105.0 mm f/1.4 lens    105mm    f/1.4    1/400s    64 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  NIKON D850    105.0 mm f/1.4 lens    105mm    f/1.4    1/200s    64 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  NIKON D850    105.0 mm f/1.4 lens    105mm    f/1.4    1/250s    64 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  NIKON D850    105.0 mm f/1.4 lens    105mm    f/1.4    1/500s    64 ISO    -0.7 EV  




Nov 12, 2017 at 03:55 AM
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Blakehfreeman wrote:
In need to live by some M10 users so I too can borrow one! 😡



Maybe I can let you borrow mine when I make a trip down to El Dorado Hills



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