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naturephoto1 wrote:
Hi Steve,

After giving more thought to this, even if we could get a shuttered lens to fire and set the f stop and shutter speed, I am not sure how we woul be able to get the camera to record the image unless Hasselblad somehow set the camera to do this. There would be no problem with a camera with a focal plane in that I would think that either the camera shutter or the lens shutter would set the time. But a camera lacking a shutter and recording only the shutter adjustment from the lens with a digital camera
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Hi Rich,

Thinking about it more, it seems to me, that the crucial issue is whether you can activate bulb mode when there is only the H adapter and an adapter with no electronics attached to the lens. If you can activate bulb mode, then the sensor should be recording information and it should work basically like film. If you can't activate bulb mode, then I don't think this strategy will work. Hassy could provide the ability with a firmware upgrade, but there won't be a lot of motivation for them to do so. We will have to see when the camera comes out.



Dec 07, 2016 at 02:49 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Hi Rich,

Thinking about it more, it seems to me, that the crucial issue is whether you can activate bulb mode when there is only the H adapter and an adapter with no electronics attached to the lens. If you can activate bulb mode, then the sensor should be recording information and it should work basically like film. If you can't activate bulb mode, then I don't think this strategy will work. Hassy could provide the ability with a firmware upgrade, but there won't be a lot of motivation for them to do so. We will have to see when
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Hi Steve,

Activating the Bulb mode if there is/would be one on the Hasselblad was also my thought as well. That is how a lens in a CopalCompur shutter could be utilized on a film based camera or a focal plane shuttered camera such as the new Fuji as well if you relied on the lens shutter.

Rich



Dec 07, 2016 at 03:14 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Yes, Lee, kind of a pain, but it would allow you to adapt a number of lenses to the Hassy X1D. People are thinking only the H lenses are possible. If some large format lenses are possible, then for a few folks like me that is good news.


Sure, if the X1D was the only option, but particularly with all the delays why not just look at the GFX?



Dec 07, 2016 at 08:38 PM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
Sure, if the X1D was the only option, but particularly with all the delays why not just look at the GFX?


For me there are a few reasons. First, I don't think the GFX is anywhere close to delivery. We will see, but I still expect the X1D to arrive at least 6 months before the GFX. I could of course be wrong and the longer Hasselblad delays obviously the closer the release will be. I also know that when the camera and the H mount adapter arrives, I can have a complete system with focal lengths from 24 to 510mm (19 to 400 35mm FF equivalent) available and easy to use within 2 weeks. It suspect even if the GFX comes out within 6 months of the X1D, it will take a lot longer to be able to put together a complete system. I am guessing at least a year later.
Second, I like leaf shutter lens in general and the Hassy H mount lenses in particular. The GFX may work with leaf shutter lenses eventually, but I expect that to be an even longer delay. I would not expect this capability for at least a year after the camera is released and I wouldn't be surprised if it took 2 or even 3 years for this capability. One of my main uses for a mini MF mirrorless camera is for portraits and the leaf shutter lenses with Nikon compatible flash system is a huge plus for me with the X1D. I think it will make studio and location portraits with flash a lot easier and in several respects better than what I can do now.
Third, I think I will like the handling and the interface of the X1D better. This is a pretty personal thing, but I think the size, grip, and touch screen interface about as close to exactly what I want as I could expect. There is only one thing that I wish the X1D had and that is that I could turn the LCD up for waist level shooting, but that is not something I do often as it doesn't suit my eyesight and my progressive glasses well.
Fourth, I don't think the price gap is as big as many people think it will be. We don't know the price of the GFX yet, but I am guessing it will be $6,000. So the Hassy camera costs $3,000 more, but if you are buying into a system it is only prudent to consider the cost of the whole system. I have in mind a 7 lens kit composed primarily of Hassy H mount lenses, and those can be bought used at prices far below new prices. In fact, they compare quite favorably to FF 35mm lenses as a full set of lenses. Yes, you will be able to adapt many lenses to the GFX, but I still think the lenses I would want will cost more for the GFX. We don't know the prices of the lenses for the GFX yet, but I think several that I would want will cost most than the Hassy equivalents (ex. Fuji 110 f/2 vs. Hassy 100 f/2.2; Fuji 63 f/2.8 vs. Hassy 80 f/2.8; and if you want equivalents of the Hassy 150 f/3.2 and 300 f/4.5 you are going to pay quite a bit more even with adapted lenses unless you go for lesser quality). So, when I looks at the system as a whole I am not sure the Hassy will cost more, but of course the GFX is so far from being announced and it is hard to tell what lenses will even be used with the camera so it very hard to price it at this point. The bottom line is I know what the Hassy will cost and I can fit it in my budget. I don't know what the GFX will cost and it may be cheaper, but it very well may be more expensive and as a system fall outside my budget.
All that said, until I actually accept the order for the Hassy camera I very well may change my mind. I don't hate the GFX at all. If Fuji tells us more about the camera including: its price and the prices of the lenses, if and how it will allow adapted lenses; if and how it will allow lenses with leaf shutters, explains the flash system including how it would sync with leaf shutter lenses, etc. I may still change my mind, but for me I generally prefer a leaf shutter system to a focal plane shutter system, I think I would prefer the ergonomics of the Hassy, and I am not convinced the Fuji system will be cheaper. Together those things have me leaning toward the Hassy, but we will see.



Dec 07, 2016 at 10:18 PM
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p.44 #5 · p.44 #5 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Kevin Raber @ Luminous Landscape posted this statement this evening (Sunday).

"On Friday I interviewed Perry and the Ove regarding shipping status of the X1D. I'll have an article finished in the morning on what's going on and what to expect. I took the X1D to Antarctica and have had a few weeks with it. It's a real nice camera. I just upgraded the firmware to the latest and shipping firmware. I will be completing my testing and will get a review started very soon. There is a lot to like about this camera and it will only get better. More sometime on Monday."



Dec 12, 2016 at 04:29 AM
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p.44 #6 · p.44 #6 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Dpreview posted their first impressions and sample images, including downloadable raws. There's also a company rep active in the comment section in case anyone here has any questions.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/hasselblad-x1d-50c-pre-production-shooting-experience



Dec 12, 2016 at 05:32 PM
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p.44 #7 · p.44 #7 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Here are some real world x1d samples. The camera is really a joy to handle. Lightweight and very stylish. I will do also some comparison with other cams concering picture quality.



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Dec 12, 2016 at 09:16 PM
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Here is the Lulu update on the camera. It is supposed to be shipping today, but it looks like hardly anyone will get one until January and they won't have all the cameras that have been ordered delivered until the end of March. That is about what I would have expected and I can still hope to get mine in January, which is pretty much what I expected when I ordered in in August.

http://luminous-landscape.com/hasselblad-x1d-where-is-it/



Dec 14, 2016 at 05:03 PM
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p.44 #9 · p.44 #9 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Sry if this has been posted already but I just found it. I understand it is a commercial article - though it is also a story about a nobel prize going to south america. And regardless the imagery i striking in several ways: real world, story telling and at times amazing detailing and colors - and handsome use of short DOF when suitable. Be sure to click the images. SKilled photographer for sure: Mads Nissen.

Enjoy.
http://www.hasselblad.com/our-world/feature/mads-nissen-hasselblad-ambassador



Dec 14, 2016 at 10:47 PM
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p.44 #10 · p.44 #10 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


There is a new firmware 1.14.2 for the X1D. You can download it on the Hasselblad site if you login.

Added functionality and main improvements for X1D Compared to v1.12.0:
• Selectable AF point
• Auto White Balance
• Exposure simulation on LCD/EVF
• B and T-modes
• Lens firmware can be updated through the camera
• Improved stability when the battery is low
• Language updates
• Bug fixes



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p.44 #11 · p.44 #11 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Some new samples... merry christmas...

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Dec 24, 2016 at 09:02 PM
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p.44 #12 · p.44 #12 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Lovely images! But yikes to that firmware update. I had assumed part of the delay was getting the cameras out with non-beta firmware.

Edited on Dec 25, 2016 at 01:50 AM · View previous versions



Dec 24, 2016 at 09:36 PM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
Lovely images! But yikes to that firmware update. I had assumed part of the detail was getting the cameras out with non-beta firmware.


It had the firmware update described above before it was released in any quantities, or so the LuLu article said. I suspect this was the reason for the delay in the shipping of the lens at least as much as the earthquake in Japan.



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p.44 #14 · p.44 #14 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Thank you for understanding my post even though cough medicine changed "delay" to "detail"


Dec 25, 2016 at 01:51 AM
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45 mm - 1/15 - f/5.6- ISO 3200








Jan 04, 2017 at 08:49 PM
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p.44 #16 · p.44 #16 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Interesting news !!!

http://photorumors.com/2017/01/04/breaking-rumors-hasselblad-acquired-by-dji/



Jan 05, 2017 at 12:43 AM
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charles.K wrote:
Interesting news !!!

http://photorumors.com/2017/01/04/breaking-rumors-hasselblad-acquired-by-dji/


OMG.. Another company that is terrible with firmware upgrades and meeting deadlines etc.



Jan 05, 2017 at 09:25 AM
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p.44 #18 · p.44 #18 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Kevin publilshed a review with a pre-prod X1D used on a trip to the Antartica ... you may need to subscribe to read it, I don't know if you can see any articles for free before a subscription requirement kicks in.
https://luminous-landscape.com/

Interesting that at the end he says "This will be an interesting year. If some of the rumblings are true, we haven’t seen the last of entrants into the 50 plus mega-pixel market." and he's not referring to the Fuji



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p.44 #19 · p.44 #19 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


Maybe he's referring to the rumors about the next Sony camera


Jan 17, 2017 at 03:51 PM
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mcbroomf wrote:
Kevin publilshed a review with a pre-prod X1D used on a trip to the Antartica ... you may need to subscribe to read it, I don't know if you can see any articles for free before a subscription requirement kicks in.
https://luminous-landscape.com/

Interesting that at the end he says "This will be an interesting year. If some of the rumblings are true, we haven’t seen the last of entrants into the 50 plus mega-pixel market." and he's not referring to the Fuji


I doubt we see any new 50 MP Medium format releases this year as I think even Sony executives have unofficially admitted they are currently not looking into getting into the MF game. I'm sure though Sony will up the game this year with new A7/A9 series. Possibly close to 70 MP or more. With BSI sensor tech it's fully possible.

joakim wrote:
Maybe he's referring to the rumors about the next Sony camera

+1






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