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Jakob617
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


Im trying to decide between a 50d w/ 18-55stm, 55-250stm, 50 1.8 and a sigma 150-600c
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80d with same lens's minus the sigma for the same money. My dilemma is Im not sure if I want to wait about a year for the 80 or the sigma. I know I want to end up with the 80.
I am a pure hobbiest with interest in the ALL outdoor shooting. Birds, nature, landscape and some portrait stuff, plus kids sports.

Ive owned the 30, 50, t5i and all of the above lens EXCEPT the sigma. Loved the 30. hated the t5i wasnt thrilled with the 50(good camera, better piece of equipment than I a photographer), I just wasnt excited about it and ended up selling everything off for another hobby. Currently looking to get back in.
70D is not one of the options.

Thanks for the suggestions. Title fixed. Info added.


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Jun 05, 2016 at 08:32 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


Birding can be expensive ... $$$$, at least to get to the point you will be satisfied with a result wanted.

Landscape, portrait, kids sports (at least indoor sports), the 50 f/1.8 or 50 f/1.4(with a hood on it for protection), and /or a Canon 85 f/1.8 (great for indoor sports), may work well.

I would suggest gaining some experience before investing in longer lenses. You can always rent glass for special events or to just get a "feel" for what you want.

.. Warning .. The Hobby You are Entering May Be Addictive ..


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Jun 05, 2016 at 09:48 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


I'm already in the hobby. Have been for awhile and am familiar with all of these items except the 80d. Just when it comes to spending that much money I like others opinion.especially having nevery used the 80.


Jun 05, 2016 at 11:01 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


.. Rent the 80D, maybe rent to buy ...

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Jun 05, 2016 at 11:26 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


I think I'd get the Sigma and add the 80D later. That is assuming I read that right and the decision is whether to upgrade bodies or add the lens.


Jun 05, 2016 at 12:30 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


Lenses then bodies is a good rule to go with. You can take "better" photos with the 50D and the glass you need/want than the 80D without it (and I mean this in terms of extending your shooting envelope to address a greater variety of situations).


Jun 05, 2016 at 12:33 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


Kathy White wrote:
I think I'd get the Sigma and add the 80D later. That is assuming I read that right and the decision is whether to upgrade bodies or add the lens.



.. I think he wants the 80D .. I can see keeping the 50D and upgrading glass, I just don't think the Sigma 150-600c is the lens ...

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Jun 05, 2016 at 12:56 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


Welcome to FM, Jakob.

Since you list birds and nature first, go with the 50D option and the Sigma lens. I generally advise to get capability first and upgrade later. The long telephoto is focal length capability.

Note: the camera is a 50D with a capital 'D' letter.

Note 2: You can have more success with thread titles than just "help". Try something like "Choice of 50D & 4 lenses vs 80D & 3 lenses".


Jakob617 wrote:
Im trying to decide between a 50d w/ 18-55stm, 55-250stm, 50 1.8 and a sigma 150-600c
OR
80d with same lens's minus the sigma for the same money. My dilemma is Im not sure if I want to wait about a year for the 80 or the sigma. I know I want to end up with the 80.
I am a pure hobbiest with interest in the ALL outdoor shooting. Birds, nature, landscape and some portrait stuff, plus kids sports.




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Jun 05, 2016 at 12:56 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


What does the OP have in his inventory now ... ?


Jun 05, 2016 at 12:57 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


The 50D is too old, so I'd get the 80D or a 70D.

Please fix the title.

EBH



Jun 05, 2016 at 01:08 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


Title fixed, new info added. Thanks for the replies



Jun 05, 2016 at 04:58 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


I couldnt stand the noise in the 50D, no matter what i did I couldn't get rid of it. I would happily take an 80D over it.


Jun 05, 2016 at 09:05 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


If money is tight, buy a 70D: a hop 'n skip from 80D performance and going for under $900 new or a couple Benjamins less as refurb. Or save up a little longer and get the 80D. The 50D was the worse EOS I actually owned: skies/clouds were crazy noisy at ISO 800.


Jun 05, 2016 at 09:36 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


Get the glass 1st. I had the 30D as well and loved it. I currently have the 50D and while I do like the ability to crop a little more than with the 30D the noise of the 50D is an issue.

I'm curious what your issue with the 70D is? I've been wanting one and may upgrade soon.



Jun 06, 2016 at 12:37 AM
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Mar73 wrote:
Get the glass 1st. I had the 30D as well and loved it. I currently have the 50D and while I do like the ability to crop a little more than with the 30D the noise of the 50D is an issue.

I'm curious what your issue with the 70D is? I've been wanting one and may upgrade soon.


It's probably not based on experience. I have all the bodies and the differences between the 70D and 80D are minimal compared to the gap between the 50D and the 70D. The main advantages of the 80D over the 70D are a few more pixels for reach, better buffer throughput, AF at f/8, and the better IQ at low ISO. The 50D's oddball 15MP sensor was a stopgap measure that never should have existed. It should have been out earlier with the 12MP sensor or waited for the 18MP sensor, but the 7D was a bit late.

EBH



Jun 06, 2016 at 12:43 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


My only issue's with the 70 are exactly stated above, and while trivial to folks that buy many bodies or have many bodies, I only like buying once if I can. THe 50 offered me dirt cheap usable body, while accumulating the glass I want. The 80 as Ive seen it, is better, even if only slightly, than the 70 and since it is only slightly more money, worth the jump. When I posed the thread to the group, I was looking at two specific packages on Ebay.


Jun 06, 2016 at 06:00 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


I saw a gray 80D for $899 on flea bay today, albeit $50 shipping.


Jun 06, 2016 at 06:12 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


.. Get the 80D and a Canon 85 f/1.8 ... take the time to learn the 80D (if you don't already, learn to shoot in manual exposure mode), put back a few dollars ... after you are comfortable with the 80D, rent some longer glass ... maybe the "S" version could be considered ...

That's all I got to offer .. I like the older stuff myself .. Have at it and have fun what ever you decide ...


Jefferson ...



Jun 06, 2016 at 06:16 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


I would get the 80D that would provide me with better shots than the 50D in virtually any scenario.

Leveraging the 50D's great value atm to get the 150-600 C is not a great compromise imho.
The 150-600's slow-ish aperture and insane reach (especially on a crop body) commands for:


  1. good AF with relatively slow lenses - something the 50D is not that great at, especially if you don't plan on using just the center point (was pretty good in 2008, but that was vs. the competition that was worse. Better =//= great).
  2. good High-ISO performance to keep shutter speeds "hand-holdable". If you want to freeze motion for sports and BIF, even worse. The 50D's aging sensor shows its age even at ISO 800, and that alone is a deal breaker with the 150-600 imho.


The 50D with a 18-55 alone is a good camera, but I think the T5i you said you had would leave it in dust, focusing just as good, and boosting a far more forgiving high-ISO. Yes, it doesn't have an AF joystick, or a magnesium body, but that's gone for good unless you opt for a 7D series anyways.



Jun 06, 2016 at 06:21 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · help with decision-50D set up or 80D set up


I'd take a 60D over a 50D for the sensor alone. Cost isn't much different.


Jun 07, 2016 at 02:02 PM
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