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WiredMike wrote:
Thanks guys. Helps to have somewhere to bounce things off of.


Even if they do insult and berate you right? :0)




May 23, 2016 at 08:32 PM
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Ha, me f*cking too. Pretty refreshing to hear that I'm not the only one. In my case, it was the stupidest little peck.


I was thinking the exact same thing when I read Ziffls post.
More like " You have only missed ONE??"

I pride myself at being pretty quick on the shutter but there have been a whole load of these first kisses that were over faster than I could get a focus lock. Not a matter of missing it, I have been ready and waiting, more a matter of it being over in about 1/1000th of a second.

The couple always hear about it from Family and friends so there has never been any repercussion because everyone else in the congregation waiting for the shot missed it if I did. Every now and then you will get a more animated priest that will say something about them being nervous and having to do it again properly this time so you get a 2nd chance although I remember a few being twice as long which made it over in 1/500th sec that time.


Perhaps worse than the lightening bolt kisses are the ones that look like something out of a Porn scene. You are waiting for the priest to throw the baptismal fountain over them.
I have seen priests tap them on the shoulders and say OK, enough.

The room is booked you pair, you just have to wait till you get through the reception to get to it.




May 23, 2016 at 08:41 PM
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Ditto what Boss said. What does your contract say? There should be a statement about not being able to guarantee every possible wanted image.


May 23, 2016 at 10:14 PM
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not a big deal. relax. I bet that they will love the pictures. If they complain ... then remind them that you are human and did the best that you could.


May 23, 2016 at 10:32 PM
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Shelly wrote:
Ditto what Boss said. What does your contract say? There should be a statement about not being able to guarantee every possible wanted image.


Unfortunately, this cause was not in the contract we worked it up. But it will be in the future.
I was looking over the shots I did get and will be able to supply way more than what was requested. I think when they see the delivery they will be happy with them.

Glort
My wife did the wedding coordination for this event. She is new to the game like myself. I told her about your post and she got a laugh out of it also. We both agreed we can just throw in the towel now and let one wedding bring us down or we can put on our big girl/boy pants and continue on.
We decided to carry on. Picked up another shoot last night!




May 24, 2016 at 06:47 AM
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glort wrote:
Even if they do insult and berate you right? :0)



Most definitely.




May 24, 2016 at 06:48 AM
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I know I'm late to the pep talk, but I'll chime in anyways! Like everybody said, these shots are definitely not critical. They may notice that there is no action shot of the ring bearer, but definitely won't notice grandma missing. And if they do notice, I highly doubt they would say anything.

I will third (wait, I guess 4th) missing the kiss shot before; and there were TWO of us at that wedding! I was seconding for a close associate, and the kiss happened at a weird place in the ceremony and lasted all of 1/500th of second. As soon as they walked back down the aisle, we ran up to each other and in stereo to each other said "Did you get the kiss!?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO!?!?!?" HAHA we sweated for about 30 seconds then went "ah well" and kept rolling. No fallout from the bride at any point after she had pictures in hand.



May 24, 2016 at 08:20 AM
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A key shot that is always on the list is the groom with his mom, and yes, I've missed this one. Took me awhile to make it up to them, but we worked it out. Sucks to be human sometimes.


May 24, 2016 at 12:06 PM
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I missed the first kiss last weekend. that was because the pastor was standing in front of them. I mentioned it to them during the formals and after those were done we faked one just to have. They didn't care.


May 24, 2016 at 03:29 PM
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and I just now noticed that my wedding photographer at my own wedding did not take a picture of my grandmother walking down the aisle.


Is grandparents walking down the aisle ahead of the bridal party a normal part of the ceremony or the way things are done in the states?
I have never seen it here. Normally everyone comes in informally and is seated other than the bridal party.




May 24, 2016 at 04:42 PM
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glort wrote:
Is grandparents walking down the aisle ahead of the bridal party a normal part of the ceremony or the way things are done in the states?
I have never seen it here. Normally everyone comes in informally and is seated other than the bridal party.



Yeah it's normal here, though I can't honestly say that I shoot it, normally. That tends to happen before I've gotten into position because I'm shooting other stuff.



May 24, 2016 at 04:48 PM
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I missed the first kiss last weekend. that was because the pastor was standing in front of them. I mentioned it to them during the formals and after those were done we faked one just to have. They didn't care.


In my ( repeated) experience, they never care about one shot unless it is one they particularly requested like a shot with a relative or friend. If they didn't rmind you at the time, then it's as much their fault as yours IMHO and couldn't be as important as they made out.

There is a lot I have discovered over the years that shooters hold as important that the couple are pretty much indifferent to.
Because I album plan, I have got a good sense of this over the years. So many times I have had couples look at each other and say " Meh, do we really want pictures of us cutting a cake?. Hmm, maybe better put one in because Mum will want to see it."

Poor Mike would perform a ritual suicide to restore honor to the family name if he missed the cake but the reality is, most couples would not be that fussed in any way Particularly if they really like the formals and other pics.

I remember shooting a whole ceremony once and realised something was wrong when I was up to about shot 45 on a roll of 36. Pulled up the rewind lever and there was no resistance. Opened up the camera back, Yep, Film hadn't taken up.
I said nothing, posed some shots after the ceremony with the celebrant and carried on.
When they came back I showed them all the pics. They said nothing other than how much they liked them.

When I admitted I stuffed the ceremony, they laughed. A lot.
Apparently She didn't want the ceremony photographed anyway. Thought she would be too nervous and look worried etc. He wanted it but when there were no pics, he thought she had told me no and she thought he conceded and did something she wanted.
We did the album plan and I said OK, what do you want to do about the ceremony pics I didn't get? They said Nothing. Happy with what we got, wasn't important anyway, we love the other pictures, all very good.

I offered them a wall print but they asked if instead I could do 3 8x10's of a standard cheek to cheek smile at the camera shot. One for them and each of the parents.
Not a problem in the world!

And that was it.

Another time I was doing video and didn't get the cake cutting. I can only assume I didn't hit the button right and certainly didn't check it was recording. The couple had been right pedantic pains in the arse and I was thinking that I would be doing this annoying job for free.

I edited it all up, they came in, I told them I had stuffed up and the first words out of the grooms mouth were " Did you put that song on the bridal waltz part we wanted?"
Again, didn't give a damn. I threw in a couple of extra copies of the tape and they didn't give me a seconds grief over it. Come to think of it, that was about the only thing they DIDN'T give me grief about!

I think it comes down to the fact that people look at the over all more than we do. As long as there are good pictures in the coverage, they don't sweat or maybe even think about what's missing.

Although one time I did have bride Take me to concumer court and one of her bitter grievances was I didn't get a shot of her mother and her aunt ( mothers sister) together. I said I have no record or memory of you asking for it. She said she didn't but thought I would because the photographer her brother had at his wedding 6 months earlier did. I asked what was wrong with that pic, she said nothing, she just wanted one of them together at her wedding.
Ummm, right.

This was the same bimbo that told the referee at consumer court " She didn't know what she wanted for her wedding photos but this wasn't it".
As she could not articulate anything more substantial than that as a grievance with my work and the referee looked at her album and concluded it more than fulfilled reasonable expectation and value for the money paid, case dismissed. I never had to say a thing! :0)

Yeah, Wait till you get one of them Mike.
Don't worry, do it long enough and you'll get more than ONE!
Especially these days!



May 24, 2016 at 05:16 PM
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Hmmm, not what I personally would consider key shots


May 24, 2016 at 05:31 PM
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I call that a good day.


May 24, 2016 at 07:01 PM
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Well what I was going to say was already covered by all the other excellent responses. I would say chalk it up to experience for number four and look forward to number five.


May 24, 2016 at 07:17 PM
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glort wrote:
Poor Mike would perform a ritual suicide to restore honor to the family name if he missed the cake but the reality is, most couples would not be that fussed in any way Particularly if they really like the formals and other pics.


I wonder if any good deals on short swords in the B&S forums?



May 25, 2016 at 09:26 AM
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Peace of mind is called errors and omissions coverage. If someone has to make a big deal about a low tier shot you have a place to help sort it out. If a listed must have shot in contract then you have help for that also. I would not do a shoot without it. I have had way too many close calls.


May 27, 2016 at 11:13 AM
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