Jonathan Brady Offline Upload & Sell: Off
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Mado wrote:
As for Johnathan, some parts of his comment are offensive and not relevant to photography.
My apologies. I meant no part of my post to be offensive and, in my mind, all of my post is relevant to photography. I'll go through, piece by piece, and try to explain further in the hopes that it illuminates my thinking and the relevance to photography.
Jonathan Brady wrote:
Are you delivering images like this to a client? Or is this for personal use? The processing seems incredibly heavy handed and not even a little bit realistic. They seem like a rescue-job from a poorly captured file.
The reason I asked this is I'm curious about the final result. Are these images for "personal use"? If so, then realistically, you can process them however you want. However, if they're for a paying client, my follow up question was going to be: Did you show them work like this prior to an agreement being made for your services? Or: Are they happy with the results? Because as I mentioned, to me (personal opinion here), the result, if not expected, is unlikely to be satisfactory to someone paying to have images taken of their dance team due to the processing making the images look unnatural. So, everything there was related to photography, IMO.
Jonathan Brady wrote:
I think this heavy handed processing kind of worked for the guy with the guitar in your other post (still wasn't something that appealed to me, but the pose and clothing made the processing acceptable) but for dancers, well, it just doesn't work at all, IMO. For me, of course.
This was me showing that I had viewed all of your recent prior posts and pointing out that the processing itself isn't necessarily objectionable (guitarist), but that you might want to consider selectively applying this type of processing to appropriate subjects (IMO, dancers aren't the appropriate subjects - especially classically trained dancers in High School). Again, all aspects of the original post, IMO, relate to photography.
Jonathan Brady wrote:
It looks as though you've tried to recover highlights to a very large degree. Especially evident on the girl on the bottom left (the redhead). Her skin and hair look terrible, artificial.
I'm not sure how the above wouldn't be seen to be related to photography. I didn't criticize the model, I criticized the processing of the photo and how it made her look unnatural. In fact, I actually find redheads to be fascinatingly beautiful. My dad is. My aunt is (dad's sister). My best friend is. My wife is. My son is. People joke with me that when they see a redhead, they assume I know them. Seriously. I'm surrounded by them and I love them dearly. So I was absolutely NOT criticizing the model. But, seeing as how I have some experience photographing them, I know what their skin looks like when you slam the highlight slider to the left. It looks really, really bad. Like you made the model look in the image above. So again, this was not a personal attack. This was feedback on your processing choice, which is directly related to photography.
Jonathan Brady wrote:
Your other posts with the dancers are, to varying degrees, just as "off" as the images here.
More of the same processing feedback that I provided before. So, still related only to photography and not a personal attack.
Jonathan Brady wrote:
Were these images "rescues"? Did you blow the exposure and are just trying to salvage something?
These are genuine questions. I was curious to know if the images were being rescued from poor exposure. I think it's a legitimate, and PURELY photographic question. No personal attack, we all blow exposures. If you indicated that these were rescues, I was going to recommend at least 2 things. 1) post the original raw files (assuming they're raw files) and allow members to play around with them a bit and see if we can't come up with something more aesthetically pleasing (assuming this is for a paying client) and/or 2) reshoot.
Again, my intention was NOT to insult anyone. If me asking questions and providing candid feedback is what you found offensive, then I'm sorry. I didn't realize you weren't posting in hopes of receiving feedback, and merely posting as a way to exhibit your work. If that's the case, I know for next time and I offer my sincerest apologies.
All the best...
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