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elkhornsun wrote:
Not being able to remove the collar and having the foot sticking straight out so it blocked access to the controls on the front of the camera were deal killers for me. I went with the 200-500mm with its removable collar and better foot design.

The Sigma Contemporary has a removable collar so if I was going to go with a Sigma 150-600mm lens it would be this one.


+1 another good but often overlooked point



May 14, 2016 at 04:06 AM
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John Skinner wrote:
My issue with the Sigma line is their drive mechanism design.

Although it's very very good new, I would question the long term use of a belted system to drive the focusing elements vs. something like the SWM systems in Nikon. I have no clue what the material are that these are fabricated from, nor it's longevity in the real world. So it's basically 2 points of failure against 1. (motor and belt / stator-rotor )


john - is the motor & belt design also in the contemporary? any recommended readings on the design?



May 14, 2016 at 04:10 AM
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tntcorp wrote:
you want push/pull zoom control, just revert to old style nikon zooms. 😊

have to admit it is much easier to create that special effect of 'zooming' with a push/pull.

btw, can someone tell me if there is any barrel creeping the push/pull of the sport? the zoom control of the contemporary has a lock switch but can be quickly disengaged with a twist of the zoom. so there is a tendency for barrel creeping when the lens is pointing down


The reason people want push/pull is because on some lenses the zoom ring is too slow (takes like 3+ yanks to move it round and sometimes stiff) which makes framing a moving subject pretty tough.



May 14, 2016 at 05:23 AM
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more time in the gym doing wrist curls :-)

just joking.. i got your point. with push pull, over time you get barrel creeps.



May 16, 2016 at 02:33 PM
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more time in the gym doing wrist curls :-)

just joking.. i got your point. with push pull, over time you get barrel creeps.



May 16, 2016 at 02:33 PM
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With the Sigma 150-600mm Sport you can "lock" the barrel at the even focal lengths. Like 400mm 500mm 600mm - No creep.

Both lenses do suffer under low light, but in good light, they are great!



May 16, 2016 at 02:53 PM
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The gripe about not having a removable lens foot collar is limited to people who haven't actually used the Sports version.


May 16, 2016 at 04:54 PM
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tntcorp wrote:
john - is the motor & belt design also in the contemporary? any recommended readings on the design?


As far as I am aware of, this IS the current design model.

The parts that concern me (if I didn't mention) is the part of the AF that actually drove the AF group of elements. I do not think that a belt type system is a long term reliable way to go on that. Stretching, slipping... too many moving variables for myself to enjoy not thinking about it. I know I have to keep this in perspective, this is not an 11K 400mm. But all glass should be a solid investment. Bodies come and go... glass is almost forever.

I have done quite a few repairs here at home for people from, doing LCD replacements, Rubber, Dust/Clean/Lube lenses, switch replacements etc.. And although I've not had to enter the belly of this beasty, from what I have read about it in comparisons with the stator/rotor (lack of a better term) on the SWM design of Nikon, and theirs.. I'm just too leery to make that recommendation as this as a reasonable purchase.

I keep picturing everything in my life I've ever had a rubber band on (I live for putting rubber bands on everything). Now not to say this is in fact rubber. It could be some polymer belt, or, some other concoction they've taken up. But I'm a BMW direct drive kinda bloke. So for all of those reasons -- I'd be out.




May 16, 2016 at 05:49 PM
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ckcarr wrote:
With the Sigma 150-600mm Sport you can "lock" the barrel at the even focal lengths. Like 400mm 500mm 600mm - No creep.

Both lenses do suffer under low light, but in good light, they are great!



this "locking" feature is also in the "c" version. but if you don't lock, there exists barrel creep.

for me the locking feature could be stronger. if you inadvertently twisted the zoom ring, the lock is bypassed. or was it specific to the lens i had tried. :-)



May 18, 2016 at 05:56 PM
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John Skinner wrote:
As far as I am aware of, this IS the current design model.

The parts that concern me (if I didn't mention) is the part of the AF that actually drove the AF group of elements. I do not think that a belt type system is a long term reliable way to go on that. Stretching, slipping... too many moving variables for myself to enjoy not thinking about it. I know I have to keep this in perspective, this is not an 11K 400mm. But all glass should be a solid investment. Bodies come and go... glass is almost forever.

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john - thank you for the response.

no referenced readings to suggest? also, should your radio call-name be "rubber band man"?



May 18, 2016 at 06:02 PM
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for me the locking feature could be stronger. if you inadvertently twisted the zoom ring, the lock is bypassed. or was it specific to the lens i had tried. :-)
It's by design....at least the Sport is. If you accidentally bump the hood the lock
will yield. Also makes it easy to push/pull zoom when the action heats up. If you
don't make sudden sweeping moves (wildlife loves this ) the lock engages and
holds pretty well. At 150mm (for transport) it's rock solid, again...by design.



May 18, 2016 at 06:07 PM
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hi,

I think that you can't go wrong with both. you have to chose between a longer focal or a lighter weight.
Because I like lugging around my gear, I chose the Nikkor and I enjoy it very much.
Fabien.



May 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM
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Shot a long with one other buddy who uses D800 with 200-500 and my d500 with 150-600. From LCD screen 150-600 Sport is absolutely better. Focusing far faster and silent, especially in conditions where wild life needs silent shutter. Then comes the reach where 1.4TC definitely slows down AF further more on 200-500 but Sport with 1401 operated like transparently. The behaviour of 200-500 in AF is very much the same as my 80-400 AFS.


May 29, 2016 at 11:46 AM
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trenchmonkey wrote:
I shoot both. FWIW I prefer the 200-500 on my D810/800's
The Sigma Sport totally rocks on my D500 and D7200's
Also have the 500 f4 VR so know a thing or two about IQ
However, using the D500 w/200-500 results in faster AF
by about 20% over my other bodys.


Curious why you didn't like the Sigma Sport as much on the D810? (I am considering it)

Also, you're saying the D500 +200-500 is faster AF than the Sigma Sport on D500? or did I misunderstand?

I've also been considering D500 or D7200. Need more reach somehow (currently using D810 w/300 f4d+1.4tc)



Dec 21, 2016 at 01:18 PM
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Curious why you didn't like the Sigma Sport as much on the D810? (I am considering it)

DX uses the center of the lens and the IQ is better on my D500/D7200 for what I shoot.


Also, you're saying the D500 +200-500 is faster AF than the Sigma Sport on D500? or did I misunderstand?

I'm saying...of my D810/D800/D600/D500/D7200's the 200-500 is about 20% faster to AF using the D500 body.



Dec 21, 2016 at 02:32 PM
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trenchmonkey wrote:
DX uses the center of the lens and the IQ is better on my D500/D7200 for what I shoot.

Ah ok, thank you. I should be so lucky as to have to worry about corners - I'm usually worried about the birdie being the size of one focus square haha


I'm saying...of my D810/D800/D600/D500/D7200's the 200-500 is about 20% faster to AF using the D500 body.


Got it. Is the 200-500 faster or slower than the Sigma Sport do you think?



Dec 21, 2016 at 02:36 PM
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Oops that quote didn't work out - it is ME who has birdie's the size of focus squares, not Will.


Dec 21, 2016 at 02:37 PM
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