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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


I am looking to upgrade to a full frame camera either the 6D or 5d mk ii. Right now I have T5i and think I have gotten all I can out of it. Mostly shoot landscape and a variety of others. My question is which one of these should I go with, looking to get it used and both are fairly similar in price. I am not a pro and still marginally new to photography. Also new to FM and love the community Ive explored so far and would love feedback on this question. Thanks to all


Mar 29, 2016 at 06:10 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


Welcome to FM.

I upgraded from a 5DII to a 6D a few years ago. Now I have two 6D.



Mar 29, 2016 at 06:14 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


Welcome to FM.

I will be following this thread closely as I plan purchase a new body in June. Currently the 5dii is running about $200 less than a 6d but the 6d is regarded as the better body.

Good luck



Mar 29, 2016 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


In 99% of situations, this decision is easy - 6d. Newer, lighter, smaller, wifi, gps, more sensitive centre point for autofocus, and better high ISO performance. The 5D would have more robust weather sealing and a few odds and ends.

Mark



Mar 29, 2016 at 06:30 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


jstens wrote:
I am looking to upgrade to a full frame camera either the 6D or 5d mk ii. Right now I have T5i and think I have gotten all I can out of it. Mostly shoot landscape and a variety of others. My question is which one of these should I go with, looking to get it used and both are fairly similar in price. I am not a pro and still marginally new to photography. Also new to FM and love the community Ive explored so far and would love feedback on this question. Thanks to all


If landscape is your focus, you'd want a 6D either way- but you may be better served by Nikon or Sony at a similar price-point, supposing you don't already have an investment in full-frame glass.

This is not to say that one cannot use the Canon cameras for landscapes and other uses- I most certainly do with my 6D!- but there is an advantage for landscape usage with the sensors in say the D610 and A7.

If your use includes a lot of low-light stuff (mine did), however, the 6D is likely the best compromise in that price bracket. Better gets expensive fast when it comes to being able to focus in low light at the same time as being able to produce acceptable results .



Mar 29, 2016 at 06:37 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


Here's some older threads on this topic,

6D VS 5DM2 https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1233083
Canon 5d MarkII or 6d https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1221295
5dii or 6D https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1217084
As a 5D2 owner, would you buy a 6D? https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1206560/
5d2 vs 6d auto focus in poor light https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1196839/
Question for 6D and 5D MK2 owners ! https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1191893
5D Mark II vs 6D https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1176158/
6D or 5D2 for first FF body?... https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1173079/



Mar 29, 2016 at 06:38 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


Thanks for the help I was leaning towards the 6D but didn't know if the 5Dii although older offered something the 6D couldn't. As for switching systems I'm already fairly invested in Canon already.


Mar 29, 2016 at 07:07 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


Now what glass to get along with it..... don't have much that will transfer over as most of my currents are EF-S. Looking at f/4 17-70 L, f/4 24-105, f/4 70-200 IS, 100 L Macro. Want at least two of those and def want 100 L. Thinking about the 17-70 or 24-105 along with the 100 and hold off on the 70-200?


Mar 29, 2016 at 07:27 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


Mar73 wrote:
Welcome to FM.

I will be following this thread closely as I plan purchase a new body in June. Currently the 5dii is running about $200 less than a 6d but the 6d is regarded as the better body.

Good luck


I'm not sure it's a better body. Might have a somewhat better sensor, but I feel the body is a step down.



Mar 29, 2016 at 07:30 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


Meant 24-70 f/4** on previous post


Mar 29, 2016 at 07:36 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


I was in the same position in January. Ended up with a 6D. Very happy with it. Low light performance is stellar and that center point is no joke for AF in very dim light. Could it have a bigger buffer and better overall AF? Sure, but it would cost a lot more than I could afford


Mar 29, 2016 at 07:38 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


jstens wrote:
Now what glass to get along with it..... don't have much that will transfer over as most of my currents are EF-S. Looking at f/4 17-70 L, f/4 24-105, f/4 70-200 IS, 100 L Macro. Want at least two of those and def want 100 L. Thinking about the 17-70 or 24-105 along with the 100 and hold off on the 70-200?


If you have no UWA, standard zoom, telezoom, or macro for full-frame, it's relatively hard to claim that you're 'invested' in Canon glass. You aren't; you're invested in Canon *APS-C* glass that will not carry over. Further, be careful about each of these lenses and their uses.

The 100L, for example, is no replacement for a fast short telezoom (i.e. 70-200 of any type). The focus speed isn't there. The lens is expensive to be used as a portrait prime, as most believe that the lens will do double duty for (it will) next to the capable 85/1.8 and 100/2 lenses that both focus faster and have fewer aberrations (various types of CA as well as vignetting) at f/2.8 while challenging the 100L's sharpness. The 100L's strength, that justifies it's price over most any other 1:1 macro lens, is its image stabilization. And while that's great, note that it's mostly useful for closeups. For most telephoto work you'll want the shutter speed to be high enough to stop subject movement that you'll be obviating the need for IS, and at near 1:1 no IS will be enough, and a tripod will be called for (or a *lot* of light). Unless you fit that 'closeup' criteria *and* the 24-70/4L IS Macro doesn't fit your closeup needs, the 100L is a very fine waste of money.

And so on.



Mar 29, 2016 at 07:46 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


chez wrote:
I'm not sure it's a better body. Might have a somewhat better sensor, but I feel the body is a step down.


The 6D is a step down, between the lack of an AF joystick, lack of PC-sync, and shutter at 1/4000 rather than 1/8000, with some ambiguous downgrade of build quality and sealing, for sure. It'd be up to the OP to determine if those are worth the downsides of AF and IQ that's at least a stop less usable, scene depending, in low light.



Mar 29, 2016 at 07:49 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


jstens wrote:
Meant 24-70 f/4** on previous post


You can use the "Edit" button at the bottom of that previous post, to change what you wrote.



Mar 29, 2016 at 07:52 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


If you are shooting true 1:1 macro then the 100L is a wonderful choice; bugs n such, flower insides, etc., but if you are just shooting 'close-ups' of the above you might grab the 24-70 and 70-200 f4L IS zooms.

The 24-70 can shoot quite close to subject and it's IQ is top notch. Paired with the 70-200 you cover 24-200 with just two lenses, add extension tubes and or a 1.4x teleconverter and you've got near macro capabilities; and much more utility.

I'm a huge fan of both 100m macro lenses and 'only' purchased the 'L' for it's IS; the 135L was high on my buy list but I mostly hand-hold and am spoiled by IS as it assists with my disability issues.

Enjoy whatever you choose!

Cheers,
Jerry



Mar 29, 2016 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


jstens wrote:
....... it's relatively hard to claim that you're 'invested' in Canon glass. You aren't; you're invested in Canon *APS-C* glass that will not carry over.


Sure ... if you assume he'll never use his Rebel ever again, or ever use any other APC-C Canon body




Mar 29, 2016 at 10:00 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


If you don't mind waiting, you can get the 6D(if you decide to go that route) refurbished from Canon with a nice discount. Sometimes they're below $1000 and still have the full 1 year warranty from Canon. Only issue might be the sales tax if that bugs you.
Also, the IS on the 100L isn't 4 stops when 1:1. More around 2 or so. I debated between it and the non IS and got the non IS. I couldn't justify paying double(used prices) for IS and a little better color and boken.
I personally find 24mm to be wide enough for most of my shooting atm. I'd get either the 24-104 or 24-70 F4 and see if 24 is wide enough. I went through a lot of my older pictures back when I had a 1Ds2 and saw I rarely went past 24.



Mar 29, 2016 at 10:39 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


I've had my 6D for three years and I'm still amazed at how fantastic the image quality is. Not to mention how nice it is looking through a big full frame viewfinder after using a crop camera. Slap on the 50/1.8 STM for $110 and marvel at what the 6D gives you. Same with the 24-70/4 IS L or 70-200/4 IS L. It's a great camera. You won't be disappointed. Good luck!


Mar 30, 2016 at 01:45 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


I owned and used professionally two 5D II for several years. At one time they were THE cutting edge technology since they popularized HD DSLR video. But they are awfully long in the tooth and I would advise buying the 6D today.


Mar 30, 2016 at 10:44 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Canon 6D or 5D mk ii


one day deal About 18 month ago I added a FF system to my Canon crop (T2i, 60D & EFs lenses). Most of my equipment was used or gifted and I had some amazing glass, 10-22, 15-85, 18-135 all very sharp EFs glass.

I thought that the Mark2 against the 6D did not stand up and that there were some great buys to be had. I believe that I was correct in that as I found a one day deal on 6D refurbished 1000 UDS -300 CC promotion. I would have got the 24-70 f/4 IS as the newest technology but found again a Refurbished 24-105 f/4 is at 599 -1/5%=510. I love Scenics so wanted UWA and found used Tokina 16-28 at lowest pricing. Again I would have gone to Canons newest up date. This may be a compromised kit but I rather am happy with it.

I hope you find what you are happy with. I still use the crops and will gift them to GK.

J. R.



Mar 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM
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