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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Hey guys,

I was thinking of picking up one of the new Profoto Deep Umbrellas, Small (33") or Medium (41") in silver, for location work. My thinking was - even if it pumps out contrasty light, I can always throw a diffuser on it to soften it. Does anyone have any experience with them? How do they differ from your every day umbrellas? Are they worth it?


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Marcus



Mar 19, 2016 at 07:34 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


I have the Deep XL and Deep L both in silver. Beautiful light that is very versatile especially with the diffuser. For outdoor you got it right, get the medium or small.


Mar 19, 2016 at 09:43 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


I have a Large Silver and love it. I use it with an Elinchrom Quadra on a custom grip head I made. The small or medium would be fine if you are only going to shoot head to 3/4 images. Here's a Christmas Card shot with the large.







Mar 20, 2016 at 04:07 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


hows the focusing of these umbrellas?


Mar 20, 2016 at 04:14 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Gregg - any reason one couldn't use this with a Quadra or Ranger head without any customization (i presume due to the umbrella shaft diameter)?


Mar 20, 2016 at 04:44 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


The reason I made the custom Grip Head was to get my Quadra head as close to the center line as possible. But yes, also due to the 8mm shaft and the weight of the umbrella. Here's a image showing that. Although, now I usually use the head with no reflector on it and it fills the umbrella better. The focusing is great by the way. I also recommend the larger models if you are going to be shooting more than one person.






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Mar 20, 2016 at 04:55 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Will the 8mm shaft of the new deep umbrellas fit the older AcuteB heads? I wasn't sure if the old heads only took 7mm shaft umbrellas. (I don't currently have any umbrellas to prove this theory)

Also - has anyone tried the white deep umbrellas?



Mar 20, 2016 at 03:19 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Just measure the shaft hole in the head. 8mm equates to 5/16".


Mar 20, 2016 at 05:05 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


marcus_yam wrote:
How do they differ from your every day umbrellas? Are they worth it?


The irregular depth of the umbrella is the selling point of the product. Lets just say its a poor man's deep parabolic. You can focus soft or" contrasty" light without losing power. Unlike regular soft/octaboxes you need grids to control your light focus and you lose power too. Are they worth it? I'm sure this product is designed for heavy duty use. Just don't use it when there are strong wind while you are shooting.



Mar 20, 2016 at 05:54 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


How much do you notice in the final shot if your strobe is less centred?


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


You probably wouldn't notice much with a white Deep umbrella or a standard white or silver but you definitely do with a deep silver. I do however, get much better results with a bare head. Here's another example with it over my left shoulder, no fill. I think it produces just the right amount of contrast.







Mar 20, 2016 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Gregg Heckler wrote:
I do however, get much better results with a bare head.


that makes sense. Using a para usually needs to have a bare head for even distribution and predictable focusing



Mar 21, 2016 at 04:42 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Very cool - all those explanations make sense. Does anyone have any examples of what the deep white umbrella look like?


Mar 22, 2016 at 04:39 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


If you go to Profoto's website and then click on their blog there are at least three videos showing the use of the Deep umbrellas.


Mar 22, 2016 at 07:14 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


I am planning to get the white one, but here's a couple from my silver one. One light with a speedlight, which is far from ideal with such large umbrella












Mar 22, 2016 at 11:38 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Does anyone know anything about these?
http://www.parabolixlight.com



Mar 27, 2016 at 03:57 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


First I have seen them. They look nice and relatively inexpensive for all the hardware needed, but I'll take a para with 16 sides first.


Mar 28, 2016 at 02:59 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Gregg Heckler wrote:
First I have seen them. They look nice and relatively inexpensive for all the hardware needed, but I'll take a para with 16 sides first.


Behold.... a cheap alternative to para

http://www.parabolixlight.com/



Mar 28, 2016 at 03:29 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


Hovering around $1K for a modifier, I don't know about "cheap" but definitely a less expensive alternative. Are you picking one up, Phil? I've got it on my wish-list.

ken



Mar 28, 2016 at 03:50 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Profoto Deep Umbrellas


PhilF wrote:
Behold.... a cheap alternative to para

http://www.parabolixlight.com/


Funny, I had been looking at the Ricebowl, and while these are not 16 sided, I really like the concept. Price is actually pretty reasonable. Phil - want me to see if they'll demo it for us? I bet they are somewhere near DTLA.



Mar 28, 2016 at 03:51 AM
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