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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Please post your High ISO shots those who own either D3s or D810 or both ...

i would like to see mainly ISO 3200 and above shots from each cameras ...

Thank you for your time

Munzir



Jan 30, 2016 at 03:27 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Here's a high ISO D810 shot from yesterday.

f/6.3, 1/500 @ ISO 12,800 Spot-metered

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1675/24074353173_4d406082a5_b.jpg

Edited on Jan 30, 2016 at 04:29 AM · View previous versions



Jan 30, 2016 at 04:22 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Trey Neal wrote:
Here's a high ISO D810 shot from yesterday.

f/6.3, 1/500 @ ISO 12,800

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1675/24074353173_4d406082a5_b.jpg


unbelievable quality shot!!!



Jan 30, 2016 at 04:25 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


D3s, 12,800




Jan 30, 2016 at 04:54 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


D3s ISO 10,000




Jan 30, 2016 at 08:31 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


This is my D810 at 12,800 iso, she is 74 minutes old

http://www.pbase.com/flatlandphoto/image/162111761.jpg



Jan 30, 2016 at 09:57 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Here's one from my D3s

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5464/9003687314_a9f3e663a3_b.jpg

200-400mm ƒ/4.0 280.0 mm 1/500 ISO 9000



Jan 30, 2016 at 10:03 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Trey Neal wrote:
Here's a high ISO D810 shot from yesterday.

f/6.3, 1/500 @ ISO 12,800 Spot-metered

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1675/24074353173_4d406082a5_b.jpg


Wow, I'm just switch from Pentax to Nikon and my D810 should arrive on Monday. This pic has me pumped. Great shot!




Jan 30, 2016 at 10:33 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


So far the D3s shots are looking better to me, but I'm also sure we are all using different processing. Might be helpful to mention what you did in post

I notice a huge difference when I let DxO do it's NR versus lightroom - here's 1/13th sec handheld with D810 at iso 12,800 at night in Dubai,

DxO prime NR then some usual shadow and balancing tweaks in LR -







Jan 30, 2016 at 11:16 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


No NR in any of these, I've never had an 810, but I did have the 800:

D800 ISO 9051


D800 ISO 10,159






D3S ISO 14,368


D3S ISO 18,102


D3S ISO 20,319



D3S ISO 22,807



D3S ISO 25,600







D3S ISO 51,200



D3S ISO 20,000 (Don't remember if this one has any NR)


Similar Scene:

D3S ISO 14,368


Similar scene with the 800 at 10,159 - I took it at a slower shutter speed, because the 800 isn't quite as good at these ISOs:



Edited on Jan 30, 2016 at 11:27 AM · View previous versions



Jan 30, 2016 at 11:25 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


When comparing these photos keep in mind that it's the amount of light entering the camera (ambient + shutter speed + f/stop) that determines the amount of noise rather than the ISO. The ISO is just a rough proxy to let you know what the ambient light levels might have been relative to the camera's exposure. This means an ISO 12,800 image might have the same light levels as an ISO 3200 image or vice versa and thus the same amount of noise.


Jan 30, 2016 at 11:27 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


workerdrone wrote:
So far the D3s shots are looking better to me, but I'm also sure we are all using different processing. Might be helpful to mention what you did in post

I notice a huge difference when I let DxO do it's NR versus lightroom - here's 1/13th sec handheld with D810 at iso 12,800 at night in Dubai,

DxO prime NR then some usual shadow and balancing tweaks in LR -


So, I'm coming from the 800, not the 810, but the 3s definitely beats the 800 at high ISO. The 3s is a special camera in that regard, and I've yet to see something that was significantly better. A little better, sure, but not head and shoulders better at extreme ISO. The D3s changed what I define as high ISO. At no point did I even lust after a 4 or 4s, it's just so good, I haven't needed anything better. I'll admit, I'm lusting a bit after the 5, but that's another story.



Jan 30, 2016 at 12:08 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


snapsy wrote:
When comparing these photos keep in mind that it's the amount of light entering the camera (ambient + shutter speed + f/stop) that determines the amount of noise rather than the ISO. The ISO is just a rough proxy to let you know what the ambient light levels might have been relative to the camera's exposure. This means an ISO 12,800 image might have the same light levels as an ISO 3200 image or vice versa and thus the same amount of noise.


If you have a higher ISO, less light was reaching the sensor, and the result is that you have to turn up gain to the sensor, which is a cause of noise in digital images, not the only cause, but one of them. I think your statement will just confuse people. There was less light that reached the sensor, regardless of ambient light level, if you're taking a picture of the same scene, with the 12,800 image and the 3,200 (assuming they're both exposed the same).

Sure, you could be causing less light to reach the sensor by cranking shutter speed, f/stop, or turning off the lights, but the result is the same. The increased gain causes increased noise, unless I horribly misunderstand the physics involved.



Jan 30, 2016 at 12:29 PM
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reggieb wrote:
If you have a higher ISO, less light was reaching the sensor, and the result is that you have to turn up gain to the sensor, which is a cause of noise in digital images, not the only cause, but one of them. I think your statement will just confuse people. There was less light that reached the sensor, regardless of ambient light level, if you're taking a picture of the same scene, with the 12,800 image and the 3,200 (assuming they're both exposed the same).

Sure, you could be causing less light to reach the sensor by cranking shutter
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The takeaway from my post is that a higher ISO doesn't necessarily mean less light reached the sensor. For example, a high-key ISO 12,800 image might have the same amount of light reaching the sensor as a low-key ISO 3200 image. The noise levels of both will be very similar.



Jan 30, 2016 at 12:33 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


same lighting conditions, not the D810 but close

D800, 1/1000, F4.5, ISO 3600


D3s, 1/1250, F4, ISO 4500



Jan 30, 2016 at 01:04 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


IQ at High ISO from D3s look great to my eyes, an OLD camera but still a badass

Thank you folks ...



Jan 30, 2016 at 01:12 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Not sure how much we can really divulge from web sized images. DxO has them at about 1/3stop different in favour of the D3s.


Jan 30, 2016 at 01:44 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Mark_L wrote:
Not sure how much we can really divulge from web sized images. DxO has them at about 1/3stop different in favour of the D3s.


Eh, I tried to post some representative examples that would show it, even at web size. I would definitely say it's more than 1/3 stop in my experience between the 3s and the 800. Of course, I'm not normalizing. You see a much bigger gap if you switch from "Print" to "Screen" at DXO (over a stop)



Jan 30, 2016 at 01:55 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


brian_sp wrote:
same lighting conditions, not the D810 but close

D800, 1/1000, F4.5, ISO 3600
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7614/16950546771_8c82d78c69_b.jpg

D3s, 1/1250, F4, ISO 4500
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8735/16744139557_6cbe2d2748_b.jpg


Man, I need to get up north and get some great grey owl shots. These are great.



Jan 30, 2016 at 02:11 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · High ISO shots from Nikon D3s vs D810


Trey Neal wrote:
Man, I need to get up north and get some great grey owl shots. These are great.


Thanks Trey
these were at Sax Zim Bog in Minnesota




Jan 30, 2016 at 02:17 PM
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