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Archive 2016 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


I've seen many sample images with the newest TC 1.4x III, but haven't seen many or any that I recall, with the version II on the 100-400 II. Specifically anyone having sample images using those on a 7d2 would be very helpful.
I have the 100-400ii on the way and could swing the additional price of the 1.4 ii but probably not the iii.



Jan 07, 2016 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


I'd say it works fine. The optical differences between II and III were not that incredible. Unless your looking at frame edges or corners.


Jan 07, 2016 at 06:06 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Thanks!
AF speed similar?



Jan 07, 2016 at 10:37 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Anyone use the kenko Pro 300 DGX with the 100-400ii?


Jan 08, 2016 at 06:57 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


I have used both the 1.4xTC v.ii and v.iii with the 7DII and 100-400 v.II combo.

As with any lens, I'm sure there are copy to copy variations in the TCs. I actually felt the v.ii delivered better results with my combo than did the v.iii and ended up disposing of the v.iii TC. As for AF speed, I can't say that I actually noticed any difference between the two. The v.iii had better extreme border and corner IQ, but with the crop camera, this was a non-issue.

Here are some examples of the combo using the v.ii TC.

https://harveyg.smugmug.com/Nature/Waterfowl/i-mLfL3fX/0/O/PP_77D_2260.jpg

https://harveyg.smugmug.com/Nature/Waterfowl/i-cF2Sptd/1/O/PP_77D_2238.jpg

https://harveyg.smugmug.com/Nature/Waterfowl/i-7Kvb2h3/0/X2/PP2_2015-11-26_0015-X2.jpg

https://harveyg.smugmug.com/Nature/Waterfowl/i-Qh5m4S2/0/O/PP_2015-11-19_0026.jpg

The following two images were heavy crops..... beyond 50%.

https://harveyg.smugmug.com/Nature/Waterfowl/i-bmPCbhB/0/O/PP_2015-11-19_0014.jpg

https://harveyg.smugmug.com/Nature/Waterfowl/i-tBc96MS/0/O/PP2_2015-11-19_0006.jpg

Hope this helps.



Jan 08, 2016 at 07:54 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Great captures Harvey. Sure do have your 7D II dialed in.




Jan 08, 2016 at 07:59 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


That helps very much Harvey, thank you!


Jan 08, 2016 at 09:07 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


mogud wrote:
Great captures Harvey. Sure do have your 7D II dialed in.



Thanks, Morley. I've been very happy with it. By the way, this gear has had '0' AFMA done to it. I'm using it just as it came out of the box. I'm even using the default 'Case' settings.



Jan 08, 2016 at 09:41 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


JVthePT wrote:
That helps very much Harvey, thank you!


You're welcome. I'm pretty sure you would be very happy with either version.



Jan 08, 2016 at 09:42 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Look at the sample comparison here

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=687&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=1&LensComp=687&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=6&APIComp=0

Center sharpness of 1.4X II is slightly better then 1.4X III.



Jan 08, 2016 at 10:33 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Sharp enough for me





5DIII+100-400II+x1.4II @560mm 1/200 f11 iso 500




Jan 09, 2016 at 12:41 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Very nice!


Jan 09, 2016 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


HarveyGold wrote:
Thanks, Morley. I've been very happy with it. By the way, this gear has had '0' AFMA done to it. I'm using it just as it came out of the box. I'm even using the default 'Case' settings.


Smart Harvey, Very Smart!

CB



Jan 09, 2016 at 02:47 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Version III works just fine:












Jan 09, 2016 at 03:27 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?




Imagemaster wrote:
Version III works just fine:


It sure appears to, however it is out of my price range at the moment.



Jan 09, 2016 at 04:13 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


As it happens, I used this combination yesterday afternoon at dusk for the first time seriously. (If anyone saw my post in this thread from last night, I deleted it because I decided to have a closer look at the images in post before drawing final conclusions.)

I used my 1D Mk III and shot birds in trees at ISO 400 and above using the 400mm zoom setting. The body and the converter are known "good copies" that I've owned and used intensively for about 5 years. I used the centre point with AF expansion and IS turned on. Atmospheric conditions were very clear (all the smoke has gone now) and there was no wind. I have the stock "bright" focussing screen fitted to this body.

Bear in mind that my objective was not to test the equipment but to go back with more focal lengh to a place and subjects I shot a few days ago, when I didn't have quite enough. So you don't get A–B tests.

At f/8 the viewfinder is too dim. This does affect ease of use. However, at an estimated 9m range and a calculated 90mm depth of field, f/8 is not too narrow an aperture for this subject. I commented in an earlier thread on the clumsy physical handling of the combination; that is indeed a problem in actual use as among other things it positions the focus ring in just the wrong place.

The AF is also noticeably sluggish compared with the bare lens and, combined with the dim viewfinder and poor handling I found it quite hard to lock on to birds moving around in the trees. However, if I got a lock, it would track. I was even able to track a cockatoo in flight using the centre point (normally I would use all-points AF for that).

Contrast is noticeably reduced compared with the bare lens and also, on at least one frame, a small amount of chromatic aberration introduced. However, I don't think there's much resolution loss. Bear in mind the camera has only 11Mpx.

Whether this lens+extender combination is adequate depends on your use. Ducks in ponds, as seen above, is not a problem. For more active subjects, it's OK as an "emergency" measure but due to the handling and AF I certainly wouldn't purchase this combination with regular use in mind.

I may or may not post some samples later.



Jan 09, 2016 at 08:57 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · How does Canon 1.4x II TC work with new 100-400 ii?


Some samples from yesterday's dusk session:


Magpie by Frank Ernens, on Flickr. Copyright Francis Ernens.



Eastern Rosella by Frank Ernens, on Flickr. Copyright Francis Ernens.



Cockatoo in flight by Frank Ernens, on Flickr. Copyright Francis Ernens.


The cockatoo is a little soft because I had the shutter speed too slow. All at f/8, ISO 400, 560mm. The cockatoo is cropped ~25% in addition to the aspect ratio adjustment, and the other two are not cropped.




Jan 10, 2016 at 01:17 AM





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