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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


The FAA has just announced that if what you fly wieghs more than .55 pound / 250 grams it (or maybe you) needs to be registered.

http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=19856



Dec 14, 2015 at 12:38 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


another the source of revenues for the federal government in the form of registration fee. :-)


Dec 14, 2015 at 01:10 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


Actually, the $5 per pilot is credited back.

And you can thank the f*g immature stupid dbags who forced this issue. We've been flying for decades (and remote controlled helicopters too) JUST FINE until the morons came along w/ zero common sense and a flight stablized platform.

Yea, hovering over an active runway or the girls locker room is just a FANTASTIC idea.

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Dec 14, 2015 at 01:15 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


tntcorp wrote:
another the source of revenues for the federal government in the form of registration fee. :-)


The normal registration fee is $5, but in an effort to encourage as many people as possible to register quickly, the FAA is waiving this fee for the first 30 days (from Dec. 21, 2015 to Jan 20, 2016).

That's hardly going to provide revenue...



Dec 14, 2015 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


Christmas is coming. I expect this needed to get in ahead of an enormous number of new, sometimes reckless owners.

In case you think this doesn't matter read

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/toddler-loses-eyeball-after-errant-drone-slices-it-in-half/




Dec 14, 2015 at 02:02 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


AvianScott wrote:
The normal registration fee is $5, but in an effort to encourage as many people as possible to register quickly, the FAA is waiving this fee for the first 30 days (from Dec. 21, 2015 to Jan 20, 2016).

That's hardly going to provide revenue...


It always starts with a whisper. it will require manpower and labor to maintain a database. how can the faa do this w/out cost? qualifications/certification to operate a drone would be one topic of discussion in the near future.

personally, i think it is a good start to maintain traceability of ownerships. drones are currently being used commercially for remote sensing, surveys, to name a few. these commercial drones have already been registered with the faa.

i certainly do not want any rogue operators to use drones for terroristic acts. at least the database will provide traceability to aid in any investigations.



Dec 14, 2015 at 03:39 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


I seriously doubt any terrorists will register.


Dec 14, 2015 at 04:12 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


I one of the discussions on this it has been suggested that it will give the FAA a way to update registered pilots of changes in safety regs, policy etc. It may also be a way to find out just how many pilots there are relative to how many belong to the AMA. Those that belong to the AMA & follow the rules have insurance but do the rest of them?


Dec 14, 2015 at 04:54 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


you all keep referring to terrorist activity, how about your average blatant stupidity in operation?


Dec 14, 2015 at 07:43 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


Also of interest perhaps to those who use a uas commercially (e.g., for real estate photos/videos):

Section 333



Dec 14, 2015 at 08:03 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


sjms wrote:
you all keep referring to terrorist activity, how about your average blatant stupidity in operation?


I suspect there are exponentially more operators of the latter variety than the former.

EBH



Dec 14, 2015 at 11:13 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


EGrav wrote:
I seriously doubt any terrorists will register.


With the F-22 Raptor at their disposal, why would they?



Dec 15, 2015 at 02:37 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


Maybe we should keep people on the no-fly list from buying drones.


Dec 15, 2015 at 10:44 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


This is the link to the current Q & A FAQ & it clearly states ONLY US citizens can apply right now but they will (as I interpret it) expect Canadians to register if we expect to fly in the US.

http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/



Dec 16, 2015 at 10:31 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


This is good and only got sped up by morons flying the drones over airports, etc.

Airspace is heavily regulated as there are crafts with hundreds of chairs with people in them flying over.

There is no room for fvcking here, zero.

Why some are bitching is beyond me. They know what you drive, how much you earn/spend, what porn you watch and what pictures you take among many other things.

Good move, very good actually.




Dec 16, 2015 at 06:08 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


I think several factors forced the FAA to do this including the stupid things people have used them for. Another one is the fact many buyers have no background in flying something via a radio transmitter & are relying on the built in electronics to do their job of controlling it at all times. Everything works fine under ideal conditions but people with no background at flying R/C don't know when conditions are beyond their non existent skill set. They also don't think there are safety rules, regulations about how high they are allowed to fly, how far away & that they can't be flown at night. The rules are very clear about many aspects of flying them but if you can buy one & no one at the store asks if you know the rules how do you learn about them? Now the FAA will have a way to make them very obvious to those who sign up & give every police force in the US something they can use when they catch people flying (applies to fixed wing too) stupidly, on the street in a residential area, at the local park etc.


Dec 16, 2015 at 08:00 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


I've cross posted this info from another message on drones to keep anyone who cares informed.

For the record the AMA is contesting the FAA's right to impose the registry & in my opinion is giving it's members bad advice in that they are saying to hold off on registering until the last moment thinking it will have blown away by then.

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2015/12/17/hold-off-on-registering-model-aircraft/

This is another useful site with info on personal & commercial use (in the US)

http://knowbeforeyoufly.org/

This is why the AMA thinks the FAA is overstepping it's mandate.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/legislative_programs/section_333/

And this is a lawyers first interpretation of things as of last week.

http://jrupprechtlaw.com/myrupprecht-laws-analysis-of-the-faas-published-drone-registration-rule

Canada hasn't yet said whether it will do the same thing but if they do it will be far easier because Transport Canada has the ability to make it law much easier than the FAA does. A recent news program on drones suggested it's coming but so fan no official announcements have been made here.

This is Transport Canada's info page and the second last link has the rules for "during your flight" which are pretty much the same rules as US pilots must follow.

http://www.maac.ca/en/transport_canada.php



Dec 21, 2015 at 04:14 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


Cicopo wrote:
Transport Canada has the ability to make it law much easier than the FAA does.p


In the US, no regulatory agency has the authority to make laws. Only Congress can pass laws. Regulatory agencies can promulgate regulations that are based on statutes passed by Congress. You may consider this a semantic technicality, but it's very important distinction in the rulemaking process.



Dec 21, 2015 at 05:20 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


I am aware that the FAA can't make something law & that seems to be a real problem for them when it comes to this "self flying" technology. Up until about 4 years ago drones (or multi rotor heli's) couldn't fly without a competent pilot that knew how to fly R/C because they went through the learning curve (& expensive crashes) it took to get good enough to risk adding a camera to their UAV. Now as we know anyone with a bit of money can buy a self flying multi rotor heli with a built in camera, and if wanted a video camera & transmitter so they can fly it as if they are sitting in it. The problems are obvious to those of us who do know how to fly & understand just how many things can & do go wrong. Those who joined a club, & bought AMA or MAAC membership also learned there were safety concerns as to where you could fly and also as electric became popular we've learned how dangerous the batteries can be.


Dec 21, 2015 at 07:17 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · MUST READ for any US drone pilots (& model aircraft pilots too)


The problems are obvious to those of us who do know how to fly & understand just how many things can & do go wrong. Those who joined a club, & bought AMA or MAAC membership also learned there were safety concerns as to where you could fly and also as electric became popular we've learned how dangerous the batteries can be

So true! I have seen this and one of the main reasons I got out of it and sold everything. I was in a club for 4 years and seen some crazy things happen. I have spent numerous hours on a SIM...and I am sure I could fly the real thing...but... just too many things can/do go wrong and it could hurt someone bad. I do/did not want that on my conscience.



Dec 21, 2015 at 07:29 PM
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