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runakid
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Auto ISO


Especially for sports or birds in flight, what is the comfortable top level for ISO for D7000, D7100 and D800? Had some disappointing levels of noise recently and I guess I was expecting too much after moving up from the D300.


Nov 23, 2015 at 04:07 PM
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runakid wrote:
Especially for sports or birds in flight, what is the comfortable top level for ISO for D7000, D7100 and D800? Had some disappointing levels of noise recently and I guess I was expecting too much after moving up from the D300.


Everyone is going to have a different opinion, it depends on how much noise you can tolerate.

Personally, I don't like a lot of noise, so my caps are pretty low. I won't shoot my D810 over ISO 3200 (same with the 800) - and I really don't like it all that much at 3200.

I can't speak for the 7100, but for the 7200 I like to keep it at 1600~2200 at the most. I will shoot at 3200 if it's a real good shot, but that's it for me.

I had a D7000, and I think I kept that under 3200 as well.

The only camera I own that I'll go over 3200 is my D4 - and that only goes to 6400 before I don't like the results. However, again, I'm very picky about it. I know there are a lot of folks who are happy with much high ISOs on the cameras above, but I'm too much of a pixel peeper

Also, keep in mind that if you underexpose it will make the noise seem much worse then it really is. So, make sure your exposure is correct before deciding on your max ISO.



Nov 23, 2015 at 04:20 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Auto ISO


I set my max on my D7100 at ISO 6400.

For sports or birds in flight, there's generally a minimum acceptable shutter speed, so artificially capping your max ISO seems counterproductive to me. Would I rather have a noisy shot, or a blurry shot?

I'm not a big fan of the sensor at ISO 6400. I'd rather have it down at ISO 1600. On the other hand, when I'm shooting I'm already doing everything possible to minimize ISO while getting the shot I want - so if ISO 6400 is necessary to get the shot I want, so be it.



Nov 23, 2015 at 04:27 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Auto ISO


On most of the new bodies, 1600 is the "can hardly notice it" maximum, 3200 is still really good (especially in OK light), and 6400 is about the max I will use, and I only push it up there in a pinch. Not to say it's not good at 6400 all things considered, but after that you're beyond the point of diminishing return. YMMV of course, and everyone's criteria are different.

Keep in mind also if you're evaluating the noise at 100%, that's like looking at a 3-4 foot print from a few inches away. Color noise is easily dealt with in PP, and the "grainy" (luminance) noise doesn't really show up in a print. Up to ISO 3200 or so I find just a small bit of chroma NR and zero luminance NR does the trick, assuming I've done my job and captured a decent exposure.

A noisy picture is also better than a blurry one, so if you have to, raise the ISO to get the shot and clean it up later.



Nov 23, 2015 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Auto ISO


I had no prob with ISO5000 on my D7K, ISO8000 on my D810...sale-able shots SOOC.
Just nailed a few at ISO5600/6400 with my new D7200. Nothing printed bigger than
11 X 14's (mostly rodeo) so you RAW "post" guys could no doubt push these #'s



Nov 23, 2015 at 05:15 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Auto ISO


It depends on the destination of the final image. For web display, my D800s have produced good results @>12800 and stellar results in 24"x16“ @3200. I've printed 18"x12" @3200 from a D7000 and I don't use NR (with the exception of a touch of colour noise reduction) as it robs detail from the image.


Nov 23, 2015 at 05:34 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Auto ISO


binary visions wrote:
I set my max on my D7100 at ISO 6400.

For sports or birds in flight, there's generally a minimum acceptable shutter speed, so artificially capping your max ISO seems counterproductive to me. Would I rather have a noisy shot, or a blurry shot?

I'm not a big fan of the sensor at ISO 6400. I'd rather have it down at ISO 1600. On the other hand, when I'm shooting I'm already doing everything possible to minimize ISO while getting the shot I want - so if ISO 6400 is necessary to get the shot I want, so be it.


Stated perfectly.



Nov 23, 2015 at 05:43 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Auto ISO


one option is to shoot high...like 12800...and run the raw through DXO's PRIME noise clean-up tool. It's impressive.


Nov 23, 2015 at 05:57 PM
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Nov 23, 2015 at 06:20 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Auto ISO


I'm like Steve. When shooting wildlife with the D7100 I really tried to keep it at ISO 800 - 1600. With the D800E and the D810 bodies I cap it at ISO 3200, and prefer less. I don't need or want a bunch of junk pictures on my hard drive that really will never use because of the noise. One of my least favorite things on the D810 is how a two green button reset then puts the ISO ceiling back up to 12800 on auto ISO, which I hate.

Needless to say, with landscapes I only shoot at ISO 64 or 100. And a tripod.



Nov 23, 2015 at 08:19 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Auto ISO


I cap my D810 at 3200 which gives acceptable results. If i really need the shot more than i need it noise free i''l go to 5000. I don't like noise so I'll try other things (if possible } to keep the iso less than 1000.


Nov 23, 2015 at 08:44 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Auto ISO


D7100 here, max 1600


Nov 24, 2015 at 03:06 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Auto ISO


I think I cap my D800 at 6400 (highest 'real' iso). I'd rather have a proper shutter speed for a sharp image with some noise than any blur.


Nov 24, 2015 at 04:21 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Auto ISO


I try to keep my D810 up to 1600or (with good light)3200
But it also depends what you do with the shots, I print at 3ft + (normally 1m over 70cm or bigger). For those sizes I try to keep Iso under 1600 but for small prints and Internet I assume even 6400 or even 12800 could be ok (in some conditions)

Nir



Nov 26, 2015 at 03:35 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Auto ISO


Thanks to all.
I had a problem with auto iso recently because I was shooting with too high max on the D7000 and D800. All my fault.



Nov 26, 2015 at 08:55 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Auto ISO


D7000. I keep it capped at 3200. But you will see noise that high. I would rather have noise than motion blur.


Nov 26, 2015 at 09:28 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Auto ISO


I see a lot of comments that mention they'd rather have the image sharp with noise than to show blur without. However, I personally won't use an image that's too noisy. So, for some of us, a noisy photo is just as much a throwaway as a blurry one.

Also, speaking as a wildlife photographer, I notice that when the light gets to the point where it needs 6400+ and an F4 or 2.8 lens, usually it's so bland and flat it doesn't make a good photo anyway (usually).

Just my opinion...



Nov 26, 2015 at 09:44 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Auto ISO


ISO3200 still looks pretty good out of the D7K. Some shots anyway. They don't always look this good especially birds because I have to crop usually. This is a boring picture, and I have no explanation of WHY I was shooting at 1/3200 and and ISO3200. Probably because I was trying to get shots of a green heron feeding a few minutes before and I forgot to change it. The green heron shots sucked but, I was really suprised how nice this was at that high an ISO.
This is pretty much SOOC with a little crop.

Frawg by Mark Kasick, on Flickr

Hey if the frog would have jumped at a dragonfly, I would have been ready!



Nov 26, 2015 at 10:52 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Auto ISO


my comfort level tends to be a bit looser then most. I don't generally do the wildlife thing so much.







Nov 26, 2015 at 01:48 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Auto ISO


Steve Perry wrote:
Also, speaking as a wildlife photographer, I notice that when the light gets to the point where it needs 6400+ and an F4 or 2.8 lens, usually it's so bland and flat it doesn't make a good photo anyway (usually).

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+1


Kent in SD




Nov 26, 2015 at 04:38 PM
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