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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


What's the feeling on these two where noise is concerned?


Nov 21, 2015 at 02:17 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


I would do a quick search on andres post. There is a long discussion on high ISO and the differences between the two bodies.


Nov 21, 2015 at 02:26 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


ISO800 on the D300 is about the same as ISO4000 on the D7200 from my personal experience. Partially due to the lower resolution of the D300 making the noise more prominent. And please don't get me wrong I've owned 3x D300 bodies over the last few years and love them but newer=better with regards to ISO noise and IQ. Not sure if you can find a comparison on DPReview or not, I'll take a look and post if I can find one.

DPReview on the D7100 allows both JPEG and RAW comparisons with the D300s (same sensor) and the D7200 is better than the D7100 so you should be able to get an idea.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d7100/13



Nov 21, 2015 at 03:05 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


I love my D300 bodies! Just not indoors.


Nov 21, 2015 at 04:11 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


Check Andre's long post, about two stops better high iso with the D7200 vs D300. Significant difference.


Nov 21, 2015 at 06:46 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


Depends on what you are looking at

"Usable" = 3 stops (1600 vs. 12800; D300 vs. D7200 respectively)

"Decent Quality" = 2 stops (800 vs. 3200; D300 vs. D7200 respectively)

"Good Quality" = not sure yet as I've not fully tested the D7200 at lower ISO values

The D300 certainly gives very good quality at 400 or lower. On the D7200 side I've only tested 200 and 400 and those are very good quality. However, I have not tested 800 or 1600 so I can't speak to those yet

At low ISO values the differences become smaller and it's harder and harder to tell the two bodies apart other then the resolution improvement. At higher ISO values, the D300 deteriorates much faster than the D7200.





Nov 21, 2015 at 10:45 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


Thanks Andre. I should have specified low as I rarely shoot above 400.


Nov 22, 2015 at 08:18 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


It's a given the D7xxx's all have much cleaner high ISOs
The PITA for me, with the D300...was the base ISO of 200



Nov 22, 2015 at 08:43 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


Andre Labonte wrote:
Depends on what you are looking at

"Usable" = 3 stops (1600 vs. 12800; D300 vs. D7200 respectively)

"Decent Quality" = 2 stops (800 vs. 3200; D300 vs. D7200 respectively)

"Good Quality" = not sure yet as I've not fully tested the D7200 at lower ISO values


Can you put this into perspective for me compared to the D700?

My limit on the D300 was 1600 iso. 6400 iso is where I'll go on the D700. Has the D7200 become that much better? I know it's been a long time since the D700 came out and technology moves quickly but the idea of useable is a subjective one.

Not trying to beat the FF drum, just genuine curiosity.



Nov 22, 2015 at 09:24 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


^ no trouble thru ISO6400, when needs be....SOOC







Nov 22, 2015 at 09:45 AM
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djp2313 wrote:
Can you put this into perspective for me compared to the D700?

My limit on the D300 was 1600 iso. 6400 iso is where I'll go on the D700. Has the D7200 become that much better? I know it's been a long time since the D700 came out and technology moves quickly but the idea of useable is a subjective one.

Not trying to beat the FF drum, just genuine curiosity.


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Good question. I would defer to someone who has used a D700.

Agreed on "usable" and "good" being somewhat subjective, thus the reason I put relative comparisons in my post, meaning that the noise level D300 vs. D7200 are about the same for the ISO pairs listed.





Nov 22, 2015 at 11:30 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


DGC1 wrote:
Thanks Andre. I should have specified low as I rarely shoot above 400.


Wow, then the D300 should still serve you well. I didn't much like the D300 above iso 400.




Nov 22, 2015 at 11:56 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


DGC1 wrote:
Thanks Andre. I should have specified low as I rarely shoot above 400.


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In that case, either camera will serve you well. If it were not for the fact that I developed a need for high ISO capability, I would never have purchased the D7200.



Nov 22, 2015 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


Andre Labonte wrote:
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Good question. I would defer to someone who has used a D700.

Agreed on "usable" and "good" being somewhat subjective, thus the reason I put relative comparisons in my post, meaning that the noise level D300 vs. D7200 are about the same for the ISO pairs listed.



Yes a bit unfair on my part, you did give good comparisons. My own memory is just foggy, I know the limit I set but my expectations and what I can do with post-processing have both changed dramatically since I actively shot my D300.


trenchmonkey wrote:
^ no trouble thru ISO6400, when needs be....SOOC


Thank you, this does look to be pretty impressive.



Nov 22, 2015 at 02:10 PM
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Thank you, this does look to be pretty impressive.


The 72 rocks



Nov 24, 2015 at 06:17 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


I used the D300s for about 4 years and I bought the D7200 after the D300s.Maybe this could help.

Basically, here are my observations.

1) The noise, at the pixel level, is about the same. So, after normalizing to the D300s size I'm seeing about a 1-stop gain. So, this translates into a 1.4x increase in "reach" or I can downsample to realize a 1-stop improvement in noise.

2) The noise falls apart gradually. On the d300s, the noise was ok to about 640, but it started to become intrusive at 800. At about ISO1250, the image was really falling apart. The image on the D7200, in contrast, really hangs in there up to about ISO3200. The noise is less objectionable(more like grain) and the saturation levels are good. The overall integrity of the image holds surprisingly well.



Nov 28, 2015 at 02:54 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · D7200 vs D300 Noise


When I used the D300 to shoot weddings the highest ISO I would ever use was ISO 1600 as above that the noise was not predictable and they chroma noise was not easy or always possible to cleanup in post processing. The D7100 and D7200 are usable up to ISO 6400 and that is based on my testing of the two cameras at that setting with subjects with skin color and clothing that would maximize noise and shooting under tungsten and fluorescent light sources which also cause more problem with noise.

Both the D7200 and D7100 had less noise at ISO 6400 than the D300 at ISO 2400 and the noise from the D7xxx cameras was the type which most people would not notice and could easily be fixed with batch processing in auto mode with a NR application if desired.

Need to understand that these cameras are electronic devices with their sensors and analog to digital processors and so comparing a D300 that used circa 2007 technology with a D7200 that uses circa 2014 technology makes little sense as they are worlds apart in performance in many respects.



Nov 29, 2015 at 03:48 PM





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