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Archive 2015 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


OK, since moving back to Nikon from Sony (D7100 -> A6000 -> D750), I need to make a decision on what to do with my excess gear. The thing is, I have to decide which gear is actually excess first! I'm definitely selling my D7100, since the banding issue doesn't fit in well with my style of processing. The big issue is the decision on what to do with the rest of the stuff I have. Here are my options:



1. D7200

I love pretty much everything about the camera, and it would make a great backup to my D750 for paid work due to its AF and IQ. The 2x 15MP crop would also be great for wildlife shooting, and I wouldn't have to take my 2x more expensive D750 everywhere with me.

Problem is, I just took on a full time job, so my photography, paid and personal, is now at a fraction of what it used to be. I shot for the first time in 3 weeks on Friday (on the drive to/from work, no less), where I used to shoot every other day at the longest. This decision would also require me to hold onto my Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8 + Nikon 35mm F/1.8G DX + MB-D15 grip, where I'd otherwise sell them to help pay for a used Nikon 35mm + 85mm 1.8G for the D750 for event work.



2. A6000

I absolutely love shooting with this camera! Super flexible, and compact enough to carry around without being a burden. The video SOOC is amazing, as well. Very clean, with colors and sharpness that I feel I don't have to mess with much, if at all. JPG is the same way, and Sony's current processing makes it the only brand I've encountered that I wouldn't mind shooting JPG-only with. I'd also be looking at its successor (A6100/A7000), which may have 4K, IBIS, and S-Log2, plus a slew of other new/improved features from the A7xII series cameras, raising the bar significantly.

However, it won't fit into the professional side of my photography beyond video use, mainly because of the lenses (which is why I went back to Nikon in the first place). I can't be carrying around 2 different sets of F/2.8 zooms at events, especially when the LA-EA2's AF isn't nearly as good as even midrange Nikon. And for video, I'd have to pick up a few more native lenses (amazing video AF) to be flexible enough for most situations.



3. Sigma 150-600mm C

Purely for personal shooting, I'm drooling all over this lens. Better than a cropped D7200 pic at 200mm, I'll actually be able to get birds and animals to fill a good portion of the frame without having to be 15ft away or less. Not to mention awesome moon and sun pics. Very flexible when you add the USB dock and do some tuning with the AF and hidden settings.

But, my personal shooting time is now limited, and this most likely won't find a way into my paid shooting unless I can find a venue that pays enough to shoot auto racing in spring.



4. Alternative suggestions?



Either way, I'll have to give up something, but they're all kind of equal to me.

[shakes fist at decision making!!!]



Nov 14, 2015 at 06:27 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


The conclusion that I came to after coming back Nikon from m4/3 was:
The reason for coming back was image quality, so whenever possible, I should use the best camera that I have access to, which in my case is the D810. I have kept a backup camera, a D700, and a couple of cameras for days when I'm not sure if the gear will survive, a D300 and a D2Xs, but for nearly 100% of my shooting, I use the D810. I carry it everywhere.

So if I were you, I would keep the primary camera, the D750, and keep one backup, in my case, that would be the D7200 because of the extra reach, and sell the rest. They will only become distractions, and they will lose value.

As for lenses: one can never have too man lenses
My choice would be the Nikkor 200-500 over the Sigma though. See the Cameralabs review.



Nov 14, 2015 at 07:16 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


I purchased the D7200 about a week and a half before heading off to Japan 2 weeks ago. slapped a sig 17-70/2.8-4 C lens on it and started clicking away. the camera is making me think twice about holding the D810. just got the Nikon 16-80/2.8-4 and i'm getting fond of it as the 17-70 is going to my daughter most likely if she shows some real interest attach to a D7000.

the D7200 and Sig 17-70 is an excellent cruising kit. the Nikon gives you a smidge more at each end at over 3x the price.
https://sjms.smugmug.com/Trips/Japan-for-a-few-more-days/

I've got the 120-300/2.8 S Sigma ant it matching 1.4xTC.



Nov 14, 2015 at 08:10 PM
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The D7200 provides better autofocus and higher ISO settings and a faster shutter speed and faster flash sync speed than the D750 while using the same EN-EL15 batteries and the same SD memory cards so it is a perfect companion camera to the D750.

Even for events I like to use on FX camera with the 24-70mm f2.8 lens and one DX camera with the 70-200mm f2.8 lens. This gives me effectively picture angles from 24mm to 300mm and all at f2.8.

Both the D750 and D7200 have the same user controls which makes it much easier to switch between the two cameras than having a D700, D800, D4, etc.



Nov 16, 2015 at 04:08 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


elkhornsun wrote:
The D7200 provides better autofocus and higher ISO settings and a faster shutter speed and faster flash sync speed than the D750 while using the same EN-EL15 batteries and the same SD memory cards so it is a perfect companion camera to the D750.

Even for events I like to use on FX camera with the 24-70mm f2.8 lens and one DX camera with the 70-200mm f2.8 lens. This gives me effectively picture angles from 24mm to 300mm and all at f2.8.

Both the D750 and D7200 have the same user controls which makes it much easier to switch between
...Show more

In what world does the D7200 have better AF than the D750?



Nov 16, 2015 at 08:09 PM
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I'm curious too...


Nov 16, 2015 at 08:30 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


Jorgen Udvang wrote:
So if I were you, I would keep the primary camera, the D750, and keep one backup, in my case, that would be the D7200 because of the extra reach, and sell the rest. They will only become distractions, and they will lose value.

As for lenses: one can never have too man lenses
My choice would be the Nikkor 200-500 over the Sigma though. See the Cameralabs review.


Yeah, that's probably my biggest fear, having to shell out for two systems. Interesting that Cameralabs had such poor performance from the Sigma C. In other tests, it's neck and neck with Tamron's version, and a hair sharper in the corners at 600mm. Maybe just a bad sample, though this isn't the Sigma of old...




sjms wrote:
I purchased the D7200 about a week and a half before heading off to Japan 2 weeks ago. slapped a sig 17-70/2.8-4 C lens on it and started clicking away. the camera is making me think twice about holding the D810. just got the Nikon 16-80/2.8-4 and i'm getting fond of it as the 17-70 is going to my daughter most likely if she shows some real interest attach to a D7000.

the D7200 and Sig 17-70 is an excellent cruising kit. the Nikon gives you a smidge more at each end at over 3x the price.
https://sjms.smugmug.com/Trips/Japan-for-a-few-more-days/

I've got the 120-300/2.8 S
...Show more

When I was shooting the A6000 + LA-EA2 adapter, I fell in love with the 24-70mm range on a crop sensor (Tamron 2.8 VC version). I was never that great with wide angle, and always leaned towards the 35mm (52mm equivalent on FF) range and beyond. So my Tamron 24-70mm 2.8 VC (liked it so much I bought it again! ) would be perfect for the D7200, too.




elkhornsun wrote:
The D7200 provides better autofocus and higher ISO settings and a faster shutter speed and faster flash sync speed than the D750 while using the same EN-EL15 batteries and the same SD memory cards so it is a perfect companion camera to the D750.


They have the same AF sensor, Advanced Multi-CAM 3500 II. Though, it could be argued that the D7200's version is better because of the crop, giving the AF points incredible coverage, while the D750 has slightly smaller coverage than Nikon's top cameras.

Higher ISO is negligible, since the D7200 will force B&W JPG at the highest settings.

Flash sync speed isn't much of an issue for what I shoot. The A6000 was limited to 1/160, and I never ran into an issue.

And I'm very thankful for Nikon for nearly standardizing their batteries.


elkhornsun wrote:
Even for events I like to use on FX camera with the 24-70mm f2.8 lens and one DX camera with the 70-200mm f2.8 lens. This gives me effectively picture angles from 24mm to 300mm and all at f2.8.

Both the D750 and D7200 have the same user controls which makes it much easier to switch between the two cameras than having a D700, D800, D4, etc.


I've been thinking about how to pair the lenses in events. I'd like to keep the 24-70mm on the D750 for shallower DOF, though I'd need a higher shutter speed on the 70-200mm (Sigma 2.8 II w/o OS) which would go on the D7200, giving it a double hit on IQ in comparison to the D750.

Again, thankful for Nikon for nearly standardizing control schemes. Wish they'd migrate it downward to the D3xxx and D5xxx series, too. I wouldn't mind having a D5xxx as a daily camera as far as IQ goes, but their control schemes are annoying.



Nov 16, 2015 at 09:23 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


I switch around the APS-C and full frame lenses. I use the Nikon 70-200 2.8 VR II on my D750, and the excellent Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS on my D5300. The Sigma can be purchased for $300 new on eBay as a direct import from Japan. Great combination. I don't own the Nikon 24-70 2.8 any more, although I used to. I plan on buying the Sigma 25-105 4.0 instead for casual use, after sending back a brand new Nikon 24-120 4.0 that was pretty bad.

I bought into Panasonic instead of Sony for 4k video. For about $650 the Panasonic G7 is a great body. Add the 12-35 2.8 and or 35-100 2.8 for about $600 each used and you have a pretty full kit. Much more attractive than Sony lens prices, and none of the Sony can do internal 4k without overheating.

Good luck!



Nov 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


mmurph wrote:
I switch around the APS-C and full frame lenses. I use the Nikon 70-200 2.8 VR II on my D750, and the excellent Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS on my D5300. The Sigma can be purchased for $300 new on eBay as a direct import from Japan. Great combination. I don't own the Nikon 24-70 2.8 any more, although I used to. I plan on buying the Sigma 25-105 4.0 instead for casual use, after sending back a brand new Nikon 24-120 4.0 that was pretty bad.

I bought into Panasonic instead of Sony for 4k video. For about $650 the Panasonic
...Show more

In the short time I was with my D7000 until upgrading to the D750, I had the Sigma 17-50 f/2.8. It's truly magnificent and, in my opinion, the best bargain in FX or DX lenses.



Nov 17, 2015 at 08:43 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


Well, this has nearly solidified plan 2: keeping the A6000 (and upgrading to the future A6100/A7000):

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/nikon-to-e-mount-autofocus-adapter-will-go-on-sale-soon/

Knew they were working on it from months back, but I didn't expect it to be completed on schedule. Hopefully the performance is on par with, if not even better than what's shown in the video. So I'll just grab used kit zooms primarily for video use, and a used Sigma 19mm 2.8 and Samyang 12mm 2.0 to round out my kit on the photo side. The primes (along with my current Sigma 30mm 2.8 & Sony 50mm 1.8 OSS) will also double as good low light video lenses if the next camera does have IBIS.

Though, this is VERY tempting:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311491457988?rmvSB=true (subtract another $120 for current rebate! )

Either way, D7200 is out, and the D7100 + grip + Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 will go up for sale, as I'd truly prefer a lighter secondary kit that isn't too limited (like the D5xxx/D3xxx). I'll hold onto the 35mm 1.8 DX for a bit till I shell out for the 35mm 1.8 FX.



Nov 29, 2015 at 07:33 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


Plot twist! Got a great deal on a barely used Nikon 1 J5 + 10-30 at KEH's Cyber Monday sale. Been looking at it since its announcement, but $500 was too much for what it offered (near class leading IQ, Coolpix everything else). Could've done without the lens, but $350 is still cheaper than I can get a new body alone for, and used bodies are hard to come by. Gonna pair it with a dumb adapter for my Tamron 500mm F/8 mirror lens and see what I can see. I'll also get the official FT1 adapter to use my regular Nikon mount AF lenses on. Maybe not the greatest BIF combo, but at least for shooting them at rest, it's probably the best budget setup I could hope for (cheap, super compact, super light weight, "good enough" IQ). Now, if KEH would just get going and ship it already...


Dec 01, 2015 at 08:37 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · I Hate Making Decisions! D750 + D7200, A6000, or 150-600mm C?


No offense, but it sounds like you were more just looking to buy something, rather than that you actually needed (or even really wanted) anything.

Which is fine. I hope you enjoy your J5.



Dec 01, 2015 at 08:52 PM





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