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Archive 2015 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


I am currently looking at a Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 in Chrome and I am wondering if this lens will perform any better than the Voigtländer 21/4 on the Sony A7s?

Some samples would be very welcome and would also be nice to know what is a fair price for one these days.

Thanks!



Oct 28, 2015 at 03:18 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


I don't know how much you are likely to pay, but it would amaze me if either was preferable to the Loxia 21 2.8.

The voigltander 21 /1.8 is, oddly (all down to ray angles) a better performer than the 21/4.




Oct 28, 2015 at 03:36 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


Well, my 21/4 voigtlander is so poor at the edges on an A7 that its unusable to me, I use a 21/2.8 Elmarit asph which is great when stopped dowwn.
The 21 Super Angulon has its supporters but even they wouldn't claim it was any where near as sharp as the newer lenses on a leica. It might perform ok on a Sony but I wouldn't bother, be better to go for something more modern.


Gerry



Oct 28, 2015 at 04:14 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


I definitely would not mind having the Loxia 21 but the price here in Sweden is 15.000 SEK, which in USD is 1.770 USD. Even after deducting the 25% VAT, it is still 12.000 SEK or 1.416 USD. Not cheap, even if Christmas is right around the corner.

I had the CV21/4 for a while, which I bought for 2.000 SEK (or 236 USD) and I did not think it was that bad on the A7s but sold it since I was able to sell it for a good profit at the time.

So my question would be. Is the Loxia or the Leica Super Angulon price/performance better than the CV21/4?




Oct 28, 2015 at 04:40 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


No one has done much with the Loxia yet, but it should be MUCH better than anything else on the Sonys.
As I said before the 21/4 voigtlander is pretty useless IMHO, never gets sharp at the edges/corners, the super angulon is of historical interest, if you can't afford a Loxia I would go for an slr lens, my nikon mount Sigma 24/2.8 is miles better than the voigtlander 21/4 and can be had off ebay for about £75. There are also Canon FD and Minolta lenses which people speak highly of.

Gerry



Oct 28, 2015 at 05:58 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


Thanks Gerry but I have no interest in SLR lenses.

Either FE or M-mount and I do prefer the M-mount for the compact size.



Oct 28, 2015 at 06:20 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


Then the Elmarit asph will give good results at 8 and 11, but likely cost as much as a Loxia or more, and the Loxia should be much better at larger apertures.

Gerry



Oct 28, 2015 at 06:52 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


I would say the CV21/4 is good enough as a walkabout on a modded A7.
But I won't recommend it as a critical landscape lens.

Samples here (on modded A7)
Full sized picts on the Flickr (just click the images to Flickr and open the full sized image there)


CV21 f4 @f8 by jenkwang, on Flickr




CV21 f4 @f4 by jenkwang, on Flickr


The CV21/1.8 is very good, but big wrt RF lenses.



Oct 28, 2015 at 07:42 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Leica Super Angulon 21/3.4 Chrome vs Voigtländer M 21/4


True! It did work for me as a walk around with the A7s.

What other options would I have in M-mount?

Just the ZM 21/2.8 I guess?



Oct 29, 2015 at 02:05 AM





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