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beavens wrote:
Nice bears, Dave!
The edited ones are looking too warm to me (on the work monitor) - probably a result of you trying to battle any cyans/blues.
You chose to shoot in some really tough light for this trip!
Last one is best IMO in terms of content and processing. Might want to tighten the crop, especially at the top and left. MAYBE some off the right.
Is there a reason you can't use the 1.4x with your 70D that I don't know about? I haven't really researched them all that much but I plan on picking one up for sure.
Cheers!
Jeff
Hey Jeff Thanks! I've been wondering where you were at. Did you head out west yet?
Yeah, when us pro photog's reach the ultimate level of expertise we must search out new and challenging things in our photography to keep things interesting. Like shooting black bears and little white dogs on super bright, blue sky sunny days. Okay, the reality is that I'm just a dumbass but it's fun to dream.
Thanks for the crop suggestion on the last image. When I tackle back into these I'll take a look at that. That image has already been heavily cropped though so I'm kinda running out of pixels. It was shot just as they crossed the road in front of me and I can't stand pavement in any wildlife or landscape shots.
Now if I had Ben's camera I could make it a nice close up portrait of just the cub and have plenty of pixels left.
From what I understand you can use the converters on the 70D and some other croppers but you lose AF. Which for me at least means it don't work. And with moving critters I would be screwed without AF servo.
Now for manual focus folks like yourself, it probably wouldn't be an issue.
Dave
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beanpkk wrote:
I think the adjustments went too far, but my bias is to err on the conservative side rather than over-adjust. My wife looked at the adjusted pics and had the same reaction I did. Certainly on my monitor a red bear is not going to work. I'd say get the bear right and don't worry about the grass. As long it's close to reasonable (i.e. not purple! ) no one will look at the grass or care about it.
As for exposure, the conventional wisdom is to underexpose black objects (like bears) to they look black without losing too much detail. If you're spot metering on the bear you could try -2 EV for starters. If you're in evaluative you may need to do some compensation depending on what else is in the scene. I find that when looking at photos I'm sensitive to blue casts in reflections, but in the real world I am not! Reflected light off a bear in the sun under a blue sky will have a bit of blueness, and if you try to take that out you end up with a yellow or red bear. A black bear's muzzle is perhaps the best indicator of color accuracy -- it's tan, not dark brown or reddish or greenish. A properly exposed black object against a bright background will probably result in a blown background at least to some extent. So be it! It's tough to do HDR with moving wildlife.
I don't have a problem bringing up shadows in post....I do it all the time, but depending on the exposure and the camera there are limits to how far you can go with it. Who said "All things in moderation." I think it applies here.
I hope this helps....I offer it only as one opinion among many.
keith
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Thanks yet again Keith for the info. I would have never have guessed or thought about underexposing when shooting black furry critters. This is a huge surprise to me as it's completely opposite from what I thought. I've always been under the impression you want to capture as much detail as possible with all subject matter. Heck I got me plenty of under exposed shots of these guys. Maybe I have some others I could take a fresh look at.
I think I've pushed my photography obsession a little too far with my wife. When I ask her how my photo edits look all I get is the eyes rolling to the back of the head and a brief "yeah, they look nice" as she walks away.
This was my first attempt to go in and mess with the RGB values individually to try and correct my cyan issues which is why I posted these specifically to find out if I was even close. The red and green issues that you see is non existent to my eyes so your input is greatly appreciated here Keith.
It sounds like I need to address this part of my editing like I try to do on the rest of my post work and keep repeating to myself as I'm editing....
Less is more...less is more... less is more....
Dave
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