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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


It' been a few weeks guys, what are your impressions?
Was the upgrade worth it for you?




Sep 23, 2015 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


I'm budgeting for it. The A7r has been a strong disappointment, and almost a waste of money.

The uncompressed RAW was the last straw on the decision. I was dreading getting a D810 or 5Ds R, and having to deal with a viewfinder again.



Sep 23, 2015 at 11:18 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


I've been using the A7R for over a year now. Great images but an awkward camera to use. Once you fine tune the camera for your type of shooting, it will deliver amazing photos.

I use my A7R for landscape and travel photography and don't see the value in the A7R2 to upgrade at the going price.



Sep 23, 2015 at 11:27 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


Probably should be in the Sony forum.

Solid upgrade. Better feel in hand but slightly heavier. EFC much quieter and less shake, although I never had shutter shake in the A7R. Don't notice the increase in resolution. Auto ISO much better.

Stabilisation makes legacy lenses great ... all the Leica glass comes out to play, as do Canons!

Overall a v2.0 product.



Sep 24, 2015 at 04:12 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


definitely yes. The R2 is now a 'alround camera' ( for me ) . the A7R was more of a specialist .

René



Sep 24, 2015 at 05:24 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


ups sry

Edited on Sep 24, 2015 at 05:59 AM · View previous versions



Sep 24, 2015 at 05:24 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


I have the A7R and tried the A7R II. It's a much, much better camera but still has the awkward Sony menus and it's heavier and way more expensive. I probably will get it at some point, but not at the current price.

The A7R forced you to use it as a niche camera because it was incapable of many things. This one can do almost anything, but 42mp is not something I need on a regular basis and other cameras are more fun to shoot with for me personally.



Sep 24, 2015 at 05:49 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


I started from 2xA7 at their advent and still regard them a very good cameras.A few months ago one of my A7s needed servicing (hair behind low pass filter),so I let it go and bought the A7R as back up.It was much cheaper than during launch - the price was the same as of new A7+kit a year earlier.I like it very much too,though it is a little awkward in use and the shutter is fully mechanic.

I dont feel a need to replace current A7 models,but maybe,some time in the future I will acquire the A7R2.
My only concern is whether I can clean the sensor by myself,because rumours are that all cameras with IBIS should be cleaned by servicemen.



Sep 24, 2015 at 10:14 AM
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Peire wrote:
I started from 2xA7 at their advent and still regard them a very good cameras.A few months ago one of my A7s needed servicing (hair behind low pass filter),so I let it go and bought the A7R as back up.It was much cheaper than during launch - the price was the same as of new A7+kit a year earlier.I like it very much too,though it is a little awkward in use and the shutter is fully mechanic.

I dont feel a need to replace current A7 models,but maybe,some time in the future I will acquire the A7R2.
My only concern is whether
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Pierre you can clean the sensor your self. I have the A7 II and have cleaned it a few times. I think you just need to do so with care starting with things that don't even touch the sensor like a blower or barely touch the sensor like a brush and catch stuff early. I haven't done a wet cleaning yet, but I haven't needed to either.



Sep 24, 2015 at 10:18 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


I have both A7R and A7RM2 since first days of their releases, and both are excellent cameras with no major disappointments.

Switching to A7R 36MP AA sensor after two years of using Nikon D800E was a smooth transition that allowed me to use smaller, lighter MF RF lenses. Replacing sensor stack on A7R with Kolari mod added value to the camera and even with the addition of A7RM2 the modded A7R is to stay for many reasons.

As for A7R vs. A7RM2; let’s say that I use A7R strictly for landscaping and wide angle RF lenses, where A7RM2 takes over mostly as a hand held camera with IBIS, silent shutter and minimum ISO for various shooting modes.



Sep 24, 2015 at 10:48 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


People have such different sensitivities these days. Many from the old days are far more tolerant when the final image quality is weighed against the rather small adjustments we need to make.

The places I go, it seems almost churlish to complain about the a7r; It is a pleasure to use - for me. Whatever takes the image, I am into that, and if the a7r is problematic, you are extremely lucky to be shooting FE now, not say medium format in 1980-90.

This is why so few travel guys used MF to get high quality with film; they were forced to make do with 35mm and even say, Galen Rowell's work is far the poorer for it, which is sad, given what he did. The a7rII is of course the best of its kind, but the 95% as good overall IQ of the a7r - used in its envelope - still leaves almost everything ever made in its dust, more so when you include its real advantages of size/weight/flexibility. No rush here.



Sep 25, 2015 at 02:04 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


Steve Spencer wrote:
Pierre you can clean the sensor your self. I have the A7 II and have cleaned it a few times. I think you just need to do so with care starting with things that don't even touch the sensor like a blower or barely touch the sensor like a brush and catch stuff early. I haven't done a wet cleaning yet, but I haven't needed to either.


Thank you Steve.I'm curious about wet cleaning in particular.For years I've been using Eclipse and Pecpads successfuly.Hope that I can do the same with the A72/R2 in the near future.




Sep 25, 2015 at 02:33 AM
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philip_pj wrote:
People have such different sensitivities these days. Many from the old days are far more tolerant when the final image quality is weighed against the rather small adjustments we need to make.

The places I go, it seems almost churlish to complain about the a7r; It is a pleasure to use - for me. Whatever takes the image, I am into that, and if the a7r is problematic, you are extremely lucky to be shooting FE now, not say medium format in 1980-90.

This is why so few travel guys used MF to get high quality with film; they were forced
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Interesting remark about Rowell.
I own a copy of Mountain Light and the very low quality of the technical reproduction indeed subtracts a lot from the experience of watching his pictures. But I think the scanning and printing are the main reason for that, I think if his slides were scanned and printed today the quality would be much better. I own a couple of books entirely shot on 35mm Velvia and they are much nicer.

I am very certain that Rowell would love the a7 series for the small size and wide dynamic range as well for the stabilizer. It is interesting to read how he basically invented the ND grad to cope with the very low dynamic range fo slide film and how he used his ski poles as a tripod.



Sep 25, 2015 at 02:48 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


chez wrote:
I've been using the A7R for over a year now. Great images but an awkward camera to use. Once you fine tune the camera for your type of shooting, it will deliver amazing photos.

I use my A7R for landscape and travel photography and don't see the value in the A7R2 to upgrade at the going price.


+1. Using the A7R since 1.5 years and it is still going strong! So far the advantages of the A7R II over the A7R weren't enough for me to upgrade considering the current price.



Sep 25, 2015 at 06:26 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · A7R -> A7R II - what's the verdict?


We certainly got used to poor repro in books, but I have been scanning 35mm slides for a long time, and even done at home with such as Nikon Coolscan V the results from Kodachrome and Fuji Provia are very close to what I can get from an A7, it takes A3 prints or more to see a difference, although 100% pixel peeping on screen will show more detail in the shots from even my nex 6 and D7000, which is why I finally gave up using film for 'normal' stuff and embraced the other advantages of digital.
There's still something really nice about using a completely mechanical camera though, so I am keeping at least the M3 and FM2 for play time!

Gerry

philip_pj wrote:
People have such different sensitivities these days. Many from the old days are far more tolerant when the final image quality is weighed against the rather small adjustments we need to make.

The places I go, it seems almost churlish to complain about the a7r; It is a pleasure to use - for me. Whatever takes the image, I am into that, and if the a7r is problematic, you are extremely lucky to be shooting FE now, not say medium format in 1980-90.

This is why so few travel guys used MF to get high quality with film; they were forced
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Sep 25, 2015 at 04:27 PM





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