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Kenneth Farver
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · OOF or too slow SS question

First time shooting volleyball with my (New to Me) 300mm F2.8
SS was 1/640 at F2.8 at ISO 8000
I see #24 is sharpest so I was wondering if she was maybe moving slower than the other 2 girls
as I focused on the #10 in the red on that side of the net.
My first thoughts after calculating I had 2.78 ft of DOF from 70 ft. up in the bleachers
was that maybe she was farther back than I had prefocused.

I said in another thread I hoped not to shoot like a slow old man.
Any comments appreciated. Thanks for your time, Ken.

Aug 26, 2015 at 01:57 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · OOF or too slow SS question

OOF 100%.

You would not see motion in the players face, at the peak of her jump in theory she is not moving very fast. Her hand and the ball (the two items moving the fastest) do show signs of motions blur.

With 1DX and 300 2.8 why are you pre-focusing? I would track the player you want in the photo and then fire away and let the camera and lens do their thing.

Aug 26, 2015 at 02:24 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · OOF or too slow SS question

Thanks, I will try to follow focus next time. What is the minimum SS you would use?
Any reason the G of Gators and 2 of 24 on the right hand girls jersey are the sharpest thing in the photo?
Thank you for your reply. First time shooting the 300.

Aug 26, 2015 at 02:32 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · OOF or too slow SS question

Ken, I don't pretend to be an expert, but...

1/800th is as low as I like to go, and I only drop down to that to keep ISO below 12800 (on a D600, 70-200/2.8).

And yes, allow the camera to focus, single point, unless the light allows you to use F4 or so for better depth of field / pre-focusing...I have never found a circumstance in a high school gym where I can use anything above F3.2.

Also, I have found DXO's "prime" noise reduction to work very well for images taken at 8000+...gives me maybe 1/3rd to 1 more stop to work with (as opposed to LR's noise reduction).

Aug 26, 2015 at 03:37 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · OOF or too slow SS question

Thanks very much for the helpful info, Ken.

Aug 26, 2015 at 04:01 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · OOF or too slow SS question

Ken,

First time shooting volleyball or just first time shooting with the 300?

Jay

Aug 26, 2015 at 07:16 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · OOF or too slow SS question

If you look at the stitching in the top white vinyl of the net, you can find your focal plane. For some of them, it appears that the red player is just behind dof. I don't think the yellow players are more in focus, don't let the contrast of the numbers fool you.

Try tracking the players on their legs under the net so they are tracked while elevated,.

Aug 26, 2015 at 08:22 PM

Kenneth Farver
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · OOF or too slow SS question

Thanks, I did focus on their legs under the net while on the floor.
From above as with these shots I focused on the faces but I'm thinking she was further back while hitting the ball.
I'll try to get the camera to lock on and follow next time.
Thanks everyone!

Aug 26, 2015 at 08:48 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · OOF or too slow SS question

Jay, first time with the 300
I've shot a little volleyball but not a lot, maybe 6 games or less in my lifetime.

Aug 26, 2015 at 08:58 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · OOF or too slow SS question

This is just echo now but 1/800th minimum and let the camera do the work with single point focus set one or two points above center. The 1Dx was born for this job.

Aug 26, 2015 at 11:04 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · OOF or too slow SS question

It is not motion blur. Neither #10 nor #24 are in focus. On the first shot, the top of the net on the far right is the focal point. Don't know if you cropped this or not, but if the original shot extends beyond what you have on the left, my guess is that it's even sharper past the point of crop. But 24 is definitely not the focal point.

On the second shot, the ball is the sharpest which coincidentally would show the least amount of sharpness had motion blur been the culprit. You're just missing the focus point on these.

Aug 27, 2015 at 05:45 AM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · OOF or too slow SS question

Thanks P Alesse.

Aug 27, 2015 at 05:50 AM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · OOF or too slow SS question

Kenneth Farver wrote:
Jay, first time with the 300
I've shot a little volleyball but not a lot, maybe 6 games or less in my lifetime.

Other folks have already answered your question, but in case you are interested, there have been a lot of useful discussions about shooting volleyball here over the years. Here's a list of links I keep handy:

Volleyball tips and techniques

Jay

Edited on Aug 27, 2015 at 10:51 AM · View previous versions

Aug 27, 2015 at 06:32 AM

Kenneth Farver
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · OOF or too slow SS question

thanks Jay!

Aug 27, 2015 at 08:44 AM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · OOF or too slow SS question

thinking of covering a couple of volleyball matches. Wondering if anyone uses strobes? I would love to think that if one strobes basketball in the same venue, they could also strobe volleyball.

Sep 01, 2015 at 06:58 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · OOF or too slow SS question

finster, I would think you would get more replies if you started a new post
good luck!

Sep 01, 2015 at 08:18 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · OOF or too slow SS question

finster1018 wrote:
thinking of covering a couple of volleyball matches. Wondering if anyone uses strobes? I would love to think that if one strobes basketball in the same venue, they could also strobe volleyball.

Do a search, there are several posts/threads about using strobes for volleyball.

Sep 09, 2015 at 05:48 PM


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