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trenchmonkey wrote:
That's what I'm thinkin' too, Lee Love to be proven wrong...
but seriously doubt the IQ can touch the 80-400G at 400 f5.6
Few reasons: no Nano, 3 ED vs 4 ED & 1 Super ED elements.
MFD much worse and I wouldn't want to be limited to 200mm
on the short end (for those 'bonus' wildlife close encounters)


At 400 @ 5.6 it should be $900 better!
I'll wait and see before passing judgment.



Aug 05, 2015 at 02:50 PM
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" but it'll appeal to noobs and entry level DX shooters...and that's fine."

As a proud noob and DX level shooter, I approve this message! Pre-ordered the 200-500 yesterday.

Boggles my mind to see people here comparing the new 200-500 to other lenses like the 200-400 f4. Price matters to a lot of people and $1400 vs $7000 is a big difference.



Aug 05, 2015 at 03:32 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Batty_F wrote:
" but it'll appeal to noobs and entry level DX shooters...and that's fine."

As a proud noob and DX level shooter, I approve this message! Pre-ordered the 200-500 yesterday.

Boggles my mind to see people here comparing the new 200-500 to other lenses like the 200-400 f4. Price matters to a lot of people and $1400 vs $7000 is a big difference.


It is all about the price very true , that would be nice if they put a big EFFORT on quality , brand name is always better than third party equipment , let's hope they will make it Very Good that way people wouldn't go to other lesser brand.


Francois





Aug 05, 2015 at 03:40 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Batty_F wrote:
" but it'll appeal to noobs and entry level DX shooters...and that's fine."

As a proud noob and DX level shooter, I approve this message! Pre-ordered the 200-500 yesterday.

Boggles my mind to see people here comparing the new 200-500 to other lenses like the 200-400 f4. Price matters to a lot of people and $1400 vs $7000 is a big difference.


^^^ This.

80-400 $2300
200-400 $7000
200-500 $1400

If it's 95% of the other two, it's a bargain and a winner. If it is, I'm in.
With lenses, you pay a premium for slight gains.



Aug 05, 2015 at 04:03 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


jbonzo1 wrote:
^^^ This.

80-400 $2300
200-400 $7000
200-500 $1400

If it's 95% of the other two, it's a bargain and a winner. If it is, I'm in.
With lenses, you pay a premium for slight gains.


150-600 $1100

I really can't see why Nikonians are jumping up and down for this lens.



Aug 05, 2015 at 04:36 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Constant aperture, 2.5 x zoom, OEM AF = theoretically better performance for tracking wildlife than the rickety third-party zooms. 2.3 kg will be too much of a beast for many casual shooters, but if it's balanced better than the admittedly front-heavy 200-400 I'll be tempted myself :-)


Aug 05, 2015 at 04:55 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


At 400 @ 5.6 it should be $900 better!
I'll wait and see before passing judgment.

$600 in my case (and already paid for in print sales)
Losing 80-199 mm as well as MFD diff., etc. a no go for me.
Wasn't "passing" judgement, just a reality check for those
that might be interested.



Aug 05, 2015 at 04:55 PM
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Jorgen Udvang wrote:
Remember that while the 80-400 is a 5x zoom (and the Sigma and Tamron 4x zooms), the new Nikkor is only a 2.5x zoom. Much easier to make, and something that hopefully will show in the image quality.


With considerable focus breathing the "new" 80-400mm isn't 400mm. So the added 100mm plus is great if optimized for the long end. Ultimately IQ is of utmost importance as well as AF speed. The AF speed of the "old" 70-300VR is pretty decent, so I wouldn't expect that to be a problem at this price point. Good to have more choices for those that can't afford several grand for a long tele.




Aug 05, 2015 at 05:21 PM
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The 200-500 examples posted today look pretty promising:
http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-200-500mm-f5-6e-ed-vr-lens-sample-images/



Aug 05, 2015 at 06:45 PM
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architect7 wrote:
The 200-500 examples posted today look pretty promising:
http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-200-500mm-f5-6e-ed-vr-lens-sample-images/


They sure do!



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architect7 wrote:
The 200-500 examples posted today look pretty promising:
http://www.cameraegg.org/af-s-nikkor-200-500mm-f5-6e-ed-vr-lens-sample-images/


Looks sharp enough for web work, and the OOF rendering does look cleaner than shots from the 80-400G I've seen posted here, if not prime quality!



Aug 05, 2015 at 06:56 PM
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johnctharp wrote:
Looks sharp enough for web work, and the OOF rendering does look cleaner than shots from the 80-400G I've seen posted here, if not prime quality!


The samples do look good, but they are small size. Sadly it seems that we'll have to wait a long time for proper reviews.



Aug 05, 2015 at 07:12 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


many of the coatings only affect IQ in certain situations

the other question is what does it lack that cannot be corrected in post?

we'll have to see if Nikon made a mid-level lens or a fairly high one at a low price to stimulate unit sales...


and yes, my 80-400 is sort of an 80-350



Aug 05, 2015 at 07:21 PM
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lustinp states the key point... the images posted are too small to pass any kind of judgment. BTW, these are the pics posted on the Nikon USA site and were up yesterday. I had hoped that they included links to larger pics, but no such luck. ... time will tell, but I am sure that there are a lot of people interested in seeing how this lens stacks up when compared to Tamron, Sigma, Canon and Nikon's other offerings.


Aug 05, 2015 at 08:16 PM
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If there's one thing I"ll say about Nikon's sample images, it's that they are rarely representative of what a lens is capable of haha. They often have some pretty bad samples up on their website.

I've seen the full resolution samples and they are pretty good but like all their samples, I doubt they show the maximum the lens is capable of.

Lots of negativity here, but the strong MTF charts and small zoom ratio compared to the competition are very promising IMHO. Looking at lenses like the 1.8G primes you can see that Nanocoating and gold rings don't always mean much. If you believe the charts, center resolution is better than the AF-S 80-400, Canon 100-400 IS II and Sigma 150-600 Sport all at their maximum focal lengths wide open. The resolution doesn't fall off too much into the corners either, only dropping to about 0.85 which is still in the "excellent" range. I look forward to the objective tests from places like LensRentals since MTFs don't tell the entire story.

Here's a couple full rez...look pretty good to me given that they aren't the greatest photos, and we have no idea what PP has been done if any. Even the tiniest details are clearly visible. Bokeh looks pretty good too. I don't think it will be a miracle lens but I think it will be a good deal for the price. I also think most people buying this lens will have it pegged a 500mm/5.6 most of the time especially on FX.

(click 1 more time after it opens for 100%)

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/56256150/ef0d307cea0c422998a8a6a9e762e8bc

http://2.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/56256150/bbf2f88a9bf0402883dba6f548428207




Aug 05, 2015 at 09:23 PM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Thanks for finding these CanadaMark...
So far, the images are better at full resolution than I expected. The bokeh in the bird image is very nice and give the low light conditions of the shot, I'd say that it is plenty sharp... This can't be good new for the value of my 200-400mm f4 VR , but it might be good news for my back as I want to continue to be a mobile photographer as I age...

bruce



Aug 05, 2015 at 10:40 PM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Pre-ordered this bad boy, now if Nikon would just release a camera much like the 7D Mark II, I'd do a flip. It would go well with this lens.


Aug 05, 2015 at 11:54 PM
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The sample images look good. Does anyone know if they are shot wide open? The EXIF seems to be stripped.


Aug 06, 2015 at 12:06 AM
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AvianScott wrote:
The sample images look good. Does anyone know if they are shot wide open? The EXIF seems to be stripped.



Both are 500mm F5.6 with a D750.

Here's another at 500mm F5.6 1/400 w/ D750 (not the best sample, looks like focus is behind the eye a bit):

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/56256150/fbafd2c000a6425992387cf3b61ec0c9


I can't find the full version of this one but the bokeh looks pretty great (D750, 500mm, 5.6, 1/500):










Aug 06, 2015 at 01:58 AM
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Hmm yummy bhoken




Aug 06, 2015 at 02:18 AM
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