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Archive 2015 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Ken_Cravillion
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p.4 #1 · p.4 #1 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Since getting the 200mm f2 IS last August my 70-200 hasn't been used for a single image.

The only zoom I use now is the 11-24mm L. And that's just for the dancing after the important dances. I've got all of the f2 and faster L's and use them all at every wedding.

Jul 08, 2015 at 05:12 PM

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p.4 #2 · p.4 #2 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Lightlightlight wrote:
Not to mention Nikon shooters get to crop a little more generously.

Do they, do they really?

I use 70-200 at 150-200mm from the rear of the chapel/chapel. Good luck with an 85mm lens

I guess it all depends on the situation and your style.

Jul 10, 2015 at 01:23 PM

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p.4 #3 · p.4 #3 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Yes I also use the 200 f/2L IS

My 70-200 got stolen but I never replaced it

Truth be told, it's as sharp as the 200 f/2L IS but the DOF control is 2.5 stops worse so I never used it

Actually even the 200 f/2L IS I only use for Ceremony and Reception, I usually just use the 85L for location photos and Bridal getting ready

Jul 13, 2015 at 11:58 AM

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p.4 #4 · p.4 #4 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Dawei Ye wrote:
Yes I also use the 200 f/2L IS

My 70-200 got stolen but I never replaced it

Truth be told, it's as sharp as the 200 f/2L IS but the DOF control is 2.5 stops worse so I never used it

Actually even the 200 f/2L IS I only use for Ceremony and Reception, I usually just use the 85L for location photos and Bridal getting ready

f/2.8 to f/2 is only 1 stop, not 2.5.

Jul 14, 2015 at 06:38 PM

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p.4 #5 · p.4 #5 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

StanOPhoto wrote:
f/2.8 to f/2 is only 1 stop, not 2.5.

Nah the difference in DOF is more like 2.5 stops, I've tested them both side by side - 200L at f/4.5 is more diffuse background than 70-200 at f/2.8

Jul 15, 2015 at 08:54 AM

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p.4 #6 · p.4 #6 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Dawei Ye wrote:
Nah the difference in DOF is more like 2.5 stops, I've tested them both side by side - 200L at f/4.5 is more diffuse background than 70-200 at f/2.8

I'm not sure about the Canon zoom but if you're talking about the Nikon that is due to focus breathing making the 200 end of the zoom more like 135 at closer focusing distances (like within 10 feet or so... Which isn't even all that close eh?)

Jul 15, 2015 at 10:56 AM

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p.4 #7 · p.4 #7 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Dawei Ye wrote:
Nah the difference in DOF is more like 2.5 stops, I've tested them both side by side - 200L at f/4.5 is more diffuse background than 70-200 at f/2.8

Weird, thanks for the information.

Jul 15, 2015 at 08:25 PM

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p.4 #8 · p.4 #8 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Love my 70-200 use it whenever I can. Don't really notice the weight with the spyder holster. I usually have th 70-200 loaded on one side and the 24-70 on the other.

Jul 15, 2015 at 08:58 PM

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p.4 #9 · p.4 #9 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

I use the dual Spider holster belt as well and it´s fantastic- I do notice the weight of the two zooms on two pro-size cameras, though:-) Anyway, to the 70-200 zoom- I just bought the 2/135mm to play with. It´s a fantastic lens but...I tested it yesterday on a family shoot. (http://www.vokurek.cz/2015/07/17/rodinne-foceni/)
While I can do the whole shoot with the 2,8/70-200 IS II zoom I certainly couldn´t do it with just the 135mm prime. It´s perfect for outdoor portraits under controlled conditions. But with two kids, a horse and a dog you just need more versatility. Looking at the results I can see the photos from the 135mm prime have more pop to them- more contrast, more sharpness and more diffused backgrounds. The difference, however, is slight and I´m probably the only one who can see it. The clients certainly don´t care- they want fun photos with natural expressions and the zoom makes these more easily possible.

Jul 17, 2015 at 07:04 AM

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p.4 #10 · p.4 #10 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

I believe in not interfering with the wedding ceremony and with the 70-200mm I can shoot from the back of the church or other location and move around behind the seated guests and not be a distraction. I need 200mm to achieve that and with the 85mm I would be having to move at least 5 times as much.

During the reception it is often too crowded to move around quickly. If I see something happening 100 feet away I can often get the shot with the 70-200mm but with the 85mm I would miss it every time.

I use the 70-200mm for 10% of my shots on average and the 24-70mm for 60% and the 14-24mm for 10% and the remainder are taken with the 16mm fisheye, 24-70mm with a closeup lens for the detail shots, or the 105mm f2 DC lens which on a full frame camera provides a much better working distance than the 85mm focal length lens. When I got my first full frame camera I first bought the 14-24mm and 24-70mm lenses and then sold dumped my 85mm f1.4 and bought the 105mm f2 DC lens.

Jul 20, 2015 at 05:28 PM

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p.4 #11 · p.4 #11 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

I love my 70-200.... I try using just primes, but I really miss what I get with my 70-200 when I don't use it. I just love the look...don't love the feel when the wedding ends though. I have what I lovingly refer to as "the claw" after using the 70-200 for a few hours!

Jul 31, 2015 at 08:24 PM

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p.4 #12 · p.4 #12 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Dawei Ye wrote:
Nah the difference in DOF is more like 2.5 stops, I've tested them both side by side - 200L at f/4.5 is more diffuse background than 70-200 at f/2.8

That's not a DOF difference you are seeing. Assuming you're comparing both lenses at 200mm that's probably the difference in focus fall off due to lens design as well as blur (bokeh) differences. DOF is used to describe how big the plane is of acceptable sharpness is, not to describe how blurred the background is. That's more a function of lens design and actual magnification (not all 200's are always 200, as mentioned above).

For example Fujifilm make two versions of the 56mm 1.2. They're EXACTLY the same except for the addition of an APD element in one of them. DOF between the two is the same but the background blur is different due to the different glass used. The same can be seen when comparing similar lenses between Sonnar and Plannar designs.

This also confuses some when comparing focal lengths. When shooting two lenses of different focal lengths and keeping the subject the same size in the frame (by changing camera position) it *appears* like the longer lens has less DOF. In fact the DOF at the same aperture and same subject size is always the same (assuming the same sized sensor). But the longer lens magnifies the background more (relative to the subject) which magnifies the blur as well.

You're not seeing a difference in DOF. You're seeing a difference in blur.

Gordon

Jul 31, 2015 at 09:15 PM

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p.4 #13 · p.4 #13 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

I don't understand how people get away with a 85mm during the ceremony in anything but tiny weddings. Do you guys have Ant-Man suits? How do you stay out of people's way?

Sort of moot for me since the AF of my 85 1.4G would never perform to my standards in a ceremony context. Slow on our D750, D800E and D810. You could be in a candle-lit vampire den and the 70-200 would still focus instantly.

Shoot long, stay out of the guests' view, instant focus so you never miss (my keeper ratio with it is at least 99%), beautiful compression and bokeh at 200/2.8... it's a beautiful tool.

Aug 02, 2015 at 11:27 AM

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p.4 #14 · p.4 #14 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

FrancisK7 wrote:
I don't understand how people get away with a 85mm during the ceremony in anything but tiny weddings. Do you guys have Ant-Man suits? How do you stay out of people's way?

Likewise. I have no idea how people manage ring exchange and kiss shots in a big church where you can see what is going on or produce variety in ceremony images.

Aug 02, 2015 at 01:00 PM

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p.4 #15 · p.4 #15 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

Mark_L wrote:
Likewise. I have no idea how people manage ring exchange and kiss shots in a big church where you can see what is going on or produce variety in ceremony images.

I just get closer and stay low.

Aug 02, 2015 at 08:18 PM

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p.4 #16 · p.4 #16 · I maybe use my 70-200 once a year.

DannyBostwick wrote:
I just get closer and stay low.

A nimble ninja!

Aug 02, 2015 at 08:33 PM

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