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Archive 2015 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


it seems the already next gen of TB is getting a real makeover.

http://www.neowin.net/news/intel-introduces-thunderbolt-3-twice-the-speed-of-thunderbolt-2-packaged-in-a-usb-c-connector

now is that USB-c connector on the new mac air a dual opt or just a usb3?

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Jun 03, 2015 at 08:00 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


Peripherals are expected to be available in 2019.


Jun 03, 2015 at 08:03 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


it should take down the sky high price of TB cabling possibly. and since it is USB3 too existing products should be easily adapted as needed.


Jun 03, 2015 at 08:09 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


or can a software or firmware update enable Th'bolt on it?

note that the newest versions of their existing laptops did not add USB-C



Jun 03, 2015 at 03:05 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


sjms wrote:
it seems the already next gen of TB is getting a real makeover.

http://www.neowin.net/news/intel-introduces-thunderbolt-3-twice-the-speed-of-thunderbolt-2-packaged-in-a-usb-c-connector

now is that USB-c connector on the new mac air a dual opt or just a usb3?


The new macbook has USB C running USB 3.1 gen 1 (5gbps data rate) which is half of USB 3.1 gen 2 (10gbps). Further, it sounds like the implementation of thunderbolt 3 over a standard USB C cable will still require that the motherboard have the (currently not released) Alpine Ridge controller for thunderbolt 3.

An easier way of thinking about this is that not all mini-display port ports output thunderbolt, but all thunderbolt ports can output display port through a mini-display port connector. Similarly, the new USB C ports can only support USB protocols, but the new thunderbolt 3 ports can output to a typical USB C cable and thunderbolt 3 connectors. The difference is that thunderbolt 3 can operate over standard USB C cables that don't have the active processing that current thunderbolt cables have BUT if you want to have decreased latencies that thunderbolt can provide, you can still buy (more expensive) active cables.

If this makes no sense to you, Anandtech did a great job writing about it in a comprehensible manner: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9331/intel-announces-thunderbolt-3



Jun 03, 2015 at 03:15 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


actually it does. i is not elekronix dumm.


Jun 03, 2015 at 04:36 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


sjms wrote:
actually it does. i is not elekronix dumm.


I was more insinuating that I probably did a terrible job summarizing Anandtech's writing .



Jun 03, 2015 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


how many decades will we have to wait for nikon ot put a USB-C port in a DSLR?


Jun 03, 2015 at 06:26 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


rw11 wrote:
how many decades will we have to wait for nikon ot put a USB-C port in a DSLR?


Fewer than Canon, but more than Fuji.



Jun 04, 2015 at 12:11 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


sjms wrote:
it seems the already next gen of TB is getting a real makeover.

It's still dead in the water as a consumer tech - you can do the same as thunderbolt more cheaply with other connectors/protocols, and only Apple is supporting it with any real effort. And even they also have to support USB...



Jun 08, 2015 at 12:07 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Thunderbolt 3. it is a maturation/reevaluation process.


maybe that's why they're changing their tack on it. this is TB ver3 now with considerably increased throughput capability.

I don't consider apple a focal point for any technology.



Jun 08, 2015 at 07:49 AM





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