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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


Okay this fall I'm heading out to Ireland with the family. It will be my mom, dad, wife and 3 year old. Being that we'll be staying in Dublin most of the time but heading to Galway via train and walking most places, I'm not sure what to do.

I've considering just bringing my 5D MkIII and my 24-70/2.8 II, 600EX and maybe a 50mm lens with me. However the weight of all of this worries me a bit mainly because we'll be walking so much and I'll have my daughter. Now we will have a stroller as well however I'm not going to depend on that.

Now I did notice that the Olympus OM-D E-M10 is down to $500 with a 14-42 3.5-5.6 II R kit lens and they have a pretty good price on a 40-150mm 4-5.6 R lens for only $100.00 and the camera has a built in flash and I can get this all for under $700.

So I know that the 5D will give me better image quality whereas the EM10 is going to smaller and lighter. I'm just trying to figure out if I should buy the EM10 since if it's lighter I'll be more willing to carry it all around whereas the 5D will be great but if it's heavy it's not. Also, yes I know I can buy 2.8 and 1.8 glass for the Olympus however I don't want to heavily invest in expensive glass for anything but Canon.

What's your thoughts? Weight vs. Quality



May 17, 2015 at 12:43 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


I like to use m4/3, but for travel I grab Canon. Just more versatile. Of course, I mostly use non af alt glass on m4/3.

M4/3 is lighter, but still doesn't fit in your pocket. So about the same feel weight wise



May 17, 2015 at 12:57 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


You might get even better image quality and stealth with a used Nex 5,6, or 7 for well under 500. These will shoot any lenses on APS-C. There are cheap natives.

Or grab an RX100. The first version you should find new under 500, and it has the equivalent of 24-100ish built in with max speed of f/1.7 That is an incredible camera, truly goes in the pocket.



May 17, 2015 at 01:19 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


RX100III. Put it in your pocket and very similar image quality to a 5DIII +24-70 at base ISO.


May 17, 2015 at 01:28 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


I am not going to even address IQ. We all know that great pictures can be made with m43....and full frame....and that all things being equal that 5DIII will have better IQ. That, IMO, is not part of the equation.

However, have you gone anywhere with your wife, daughter, and 5DIII? I would imagine short trips that you have already taken will give you an idea how this will go. Now multiply the difficultly factor by ~ 2 and that should tell you how well that 5DIII is going to work.

I have 2 active boys and a wife that expects me to be engaged. More than that, I want to be engaged with my kids, especially on vacation. For me, carrying around a full sized kit just would not work.

I have a friend who lets his wife do most of the child care almost all the time. For him a 5DIII + lenses would probably be fine. I am not sure how his wife likes him messing around with the camera more than helping with kids, but, in my case that ain't going to fly. Many times I take an RX100.





May 17, 2015 at 01:31 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


I've also toyed around with the idea of picking up a 70-200/4 IS as well. I'm so torn.



May 17, 2015 at 01:38 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


Living in Ireland with a toddler, being a non-driver, I haven't yet found the solution for DSLR portability.

Black Rapid-type straps become tiring after about 20 mins of having the camera bounce on the hip and catch on bushes.

Keeping camera and lens in the bottom of the stroller seems to be bad for them in terms of vibration.

Perhaps a courier-style bag with quick-access top hatch would be better.

Anyway the jokes are true; you need something shower-proof even in Summer.



May 17, 2015 at 01:44 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


I would travel light. After having traveled for many years with SLRs & DSLRs, I would never travel with them again unless it's for wildlife. It's a lot more enjoyable to travel with light gear. Lots of really good options available. I've begun to travel with the A7II & a second mirrorless body + 3-4 primes, but even that's too heavy. I think my next trip will be one mirrorless body with 2-3 light primes + a compact camera like the RX100, LX100, X100s, Ricoh GR, etc.


May 17, 2015 at 01:53 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


I travel with an E-M10 with 12-40 and 45 1.8. I leave the full frame nikon stuff at home. Like everyone has already said, it just makes family outings a lot easier and enjoyable.


May 17, 2015 at 02:01 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


5D3, 24-70, 50 f/1.8 STM, and buy a small lightweight EX 270 II or EX 90 flash. Buy and bring a cheap 4 ounce Ultrapod II tabletop tripod with strap for railings and tree branches.

By getting the lightweight flash, you'll save about the same weight as if you shift to the Oly.

If you get the 270 II, you can use it at home as a master to trigger the 600 for a strong sidelight or mount near a bird feeder, etc. So it would be a good investment.



May 17, 2015 at 02:06 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


Dublin 50F, light rain....my few tips from my 28 yrs in Ireland, your best sensor in low light and your rain gear


May 17, 2015 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


The 5D3 with a small prime isn't that bad at all. I really like shooting it with the shorty forty or fast fifty. It's like a whole different camera after using some fast zooms.

I could probably do whole trip with the 35 f/2 IS. Sure, you "miss" some shots, but you gain others by thinking in a single focal length.



May 17, 2015 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


Yes, 5D3 with 85 f/1.8 and 40 f/2.8 or 35 f/2 can do a lot.



May 17, 2015 at 03:55 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


Since you aren't changing hotels daily, I like the idea of 5d kit but also lighter kit for use when warranted.

You could buy an RX100, X100S, GR, LX100 or something similar used that has been on the market a while and sell post trip with minimal loss.

With a 2 and 6 year old that we travel with a lot, I wouldn't carry a big dslr and honking lens like the 24-70/2.8 all the time. I'd probably get the 35/2IS or 40/2.8 and carry an RX100 or LX100 as well. Though I might throw the big zoom in the suitcase if it just has to make it to and from the airport.



May 17, 2015 at 05:06 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


I just got a GR; seems like a fun little camera so far. Really great for b&w conversions. I think it compliments my 5D3 well. Nice little cam you can throw in a pocket if you want to go light. The 28mm equiv is going to take me a little time to get accustomed to, but it just makes you get close.


May 17, 2015 at 05:38 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


i went to Ireland last November. and I got tired of lugging around the Canon kit all the time. you can shoot most of what you want on a 24-105, and maybe take a 50, if you need low light.


May 17, 2015 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


If you go with Olympus OM-D E-M10, I would consider the Oly 45/1.8 as a short tele and maybe the Panasonic 20/1.7. The kit lens is ok, but I know several prefer the Panasonic 12-32 zoom.

I would hesitate to bring a pro level DSLR on a family trip

In the APS-C world there is Sony a6000 with a 16-50 zoom. Sony also makes a 35/1.8 normal lens for the Nex series. I think both lenses have an image stabilizer built in.



May 17, 2015 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


When I have been on trips for which the primary purpose is NOT photography, I go with one of the following configs:

Super light: Canon G1X in a tiny camera case. The built-in flash is perfectly fine for fill duty, but don't count on it for primary lighting. It produces really good files at ISO 3200 and usable files at ISO 6400, so this is less of a concern. I always tell myself that I can throw the 430EX flash in a bag just in case but I've only done that twice and didn't end up using it either time. The G1X is downright cheap now that the Mark II is out, but is well worth the money.

Light: Canon Rebel SL1 with 18-55, 24/2.8 and the 430EX in a small camera bag. Sometimes I throw the 85/1.8 into the bag just in case. The camera is really tiny and produces excellent quality files. I don't even really think about it like an SLR; I think of it as a point & shoot on steroids. I've been toying with the idea of picking up a 15-85 or 18-135 lens, but haven't done so.

Medium: My 5D II or 5D III, 430EX, and one of the following sets of lenses:
A. 24-70/4L IS
B. 16-35/4L IS, 50/1.4, 70-200/4L IS
C. 14/2.8 Rokinon, 24/2.8, 40/2.8 pancake, 85/1.8, 135/2L, 1.4X TC (Primes set mostly, though I used to sometimes substitute the 17-40/4L for the 14/2.8 Rokinon, if I thought I'd want to use a polarizer.)

While I have owned f/2.8 L zooms in the past, I've never warmed up to them for travel. They're super heavy and with the high ISO performance of today's cameras, seem particularly pointless to me. I get files out of my 5D III at ISO 6400 that easily rival what I used to get out of my 20D or 5D classic at 1600. If I'm really stuck for speed in low light, I prefer fast primes like the 35/2, 50/1.4, 85/1.8 and 135/2L to a zoom anyway.

If I were in your shoes, I'd probably go with my light or medium setup described above, or some logical combination of the two. Maybe the light setup with a couple extra prime lenses thrown in. Good luck with your decision.



May 17, 2015 at 07:03 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


Sony A7 and the 28-70 kit zoom. You can pick it up for under a grand

Gives you that great FF image quality, and the Sony "kit" zoom is actually quite good, way better than the Oly 14-42 kit zoom. It also has OSS (thought its less effective than the A7 mkII IBIS or the Oly IBIS of course)

Still though, if you want a rather compact, affordable, and versatile package for travel, that gives up practically nothing when its comes to overall IQ, subject isolation ability etc, I think its a tough act to beat.

Maybe add on a cheap 50mm f1.8 FD or similar prime for some better subject isolation as well, and you've got a pretty good kit



May 17, 2015 at 07:24 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Ireland: 5D MkIII vs. OM-D EM10


moondigger wrote:
Light: Canon Rebel SL1 with 18-55, 24/2.8 and the 430EX in a small camera bag. Sometimes I throw the 85/1.8 into the bag just in case. The camera is really tiny and produces excellent quality files. I don't even really think about it like an SLR; I think of it as a point & shoot on steroids. I've been toying with the idea of picking up a 15-85 or 18-135 lens, but haven't done so.


That's an interesting suggestion. The SL1 + 18-55 STM is about the same weight as the X-E1/X-E2 + XF 18-55mm.




May 17, 2015 at 07:24 PM
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