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rscheffler wrote:
I'd hope there's at least two!
There will still be a difference, but it will be relatively subtle. Maybe to get an idea, consider the differences between 24MP APS-C and FF. It would be much more significant if most MF sensors were actually true MF in terms of the old film formats. Most are approximately double the size of 24x36mm FF in one direction... i.e. the Sony 50MP in the 645Z and new Hassy back is 33x44mm. Still, it's a fair amount more real estate that will give you bigger pixels and get you closer to the 'MF look' of greater subject background separation at moderate aperture values. Larger formats tend to have a more 'relaxed' look to lens rendering, plus the lenses don't have to be as critically aligned/manufactured as those for high pixel density small formats because of lower lp/mm requirements (though we're seeing that with digital MF systems with high pixel density, the new lenses definitely are better, as is also the case with the new 'digital' lenses for technical cameras, just as it's the case for the latest 35mm system lenses vs. many from the film era). There are so many factors that influence image quality and rendering but I feel comfortable stating that a 50MP 24x36mm sensor will comfortably compete with MF in many applications. It will be good enough (pretty much the case when looking at format evolution throughout the history of photography). Where MF may have some advantage is when the end use calls for something more along the lines of a 4:3 proportion than 3:2 cropped to 4:3 or 1:1.
As for 50MP vs. 20ish MP FF... I believe there will be a real advantage, especially if 50MP isn't needed for the end use. By oversampling and downscaling to ~20MP or less, the image originating at 50MP will still look better than if it was shot at a lower native resolution. At least in terms of fine detail qualities, smoothness of diagonal lines, etc.
If and when there's a 5DIV, I hope for the sake of some I know, it's at least 8fps. As for 5Ds pricing... I can see Canon pushing this as a premium product which will compete against $10-25K MF systems. They're not going to give it away. I expect somewhere between $4-5K, depending on the body. Basically the old 1D price. I know this would upset a lot considering the a7R is under $3000... but arguably, if the new sensor competes on DR, the overall package from Canon will be far superior in UI, AF and usability (though lack of tilting LCD might be annoying, if true).
Someone asked about the 1D series... it will become increasingly niche, unfortunately. Which likely means it stays $$$$. The 1DX/D4 style camera still does specific things much better than anything else currently on the market. The question is, for how much longer (considering some of the sub-2K competition) and whether the targeted users will be of sufficient number and continue to feel the asking price is justifiable in light of these other options. I do love the 1DX, but I'm no longer sure it's a justified outlay in consideration of current client expectations, budgets and alternatives....Show more →
Thank you for the great information Ron. So glad I asked the question as I'm learning a lot. Appreciate your feedback!
So with the 645 systems are people using older Pentax lenses because that is all that's available or has Pentax brought newer lens designs to market? Is it safe to say those shooting the Pentax are using Pentax lenses exclusively or do they also use Alt lenses? To keep the conversation relevant to the OP, I'm just curious since there's so many great lens offerings from Canon. And, if the differences are not substantial I would think many would stay / choose Canon for costs, weight, etc. as you mentioned.
From what I have seen on the MF threads there are certain instances where I can tell MF delivers in a big way in terms of detail, DR, etc. and others not so much. Now, that could partially be due to post-processing, photographer experience or a number of other reasons. Bottom line, I'm sure it will depend on the type of client and their needs as to the system one chooses.
Thanks again!
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