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Hey Everyone,


This topic tends to be beat to death on photo forums but I wasnt able to find one on this thread. Those of you who have changed from FF DSLR to Fuji x please comment.

What made you switch?

What do you normally shoot?

Is there anything you miss about your FF DSLR?




Dec 18, 2014 at 11:49 AM
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I shoot low light theater and stage performances, also a lot of concerts. I am still at the point of thinking that i need to take my D3s with me, yet i almost never use it! My XT-1 does an amazing job-great color in low light. The focus is a little slower, but not enough to be a real bother. The weight reduction is a joy, and when doing candids of the crowd, leads to better responses than pointing a big, pro machine at them.


Dec 18, 2014 at 12:05 PM
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cmboland wrote:
Those of you who have changed from FF DSLR to Fuji x please comment.

What made you switch?

What do you normally shoot?

Is there anything you miss about your FF DSLR?


I had Canon FF for several years before, and switched to Fuji X almost 2 years ago (X-E1).

1. Fuji colour, size and weight, plus better DR than 5dII made me switch

2. General shooting: Street, people, my daughter, but no sports...

3. With FF it is much easier to get the shallow DOF look, with APS sensors like in the Fuji everything tends to look a bit harsher than with FF. A bit less dimenstional also, but this last one may just be an illusion.

AF on the 5dII was not faster than on the X-E1, but much less (!) precise. I have got much more keepers than with the DSLR:



Dec 18, 2014 at 01:08 PM
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rodmcwha wrote:
I shoot low light theater and stage performances, also a lot of concerts. I am still at the point of thinking that i need to take my D3s with me, yet i almost never use it! My XT-1 does an amazing job-great color in low light. The focus is a little slower, but not enough to be a real bother. The weight reduction is a joy, and when doing candids of the crowd, leads to better responses than pointing a big, pro machine at them.


I'd be interested to see a sample of some of your theater shots! I'm debating selling my d600 and lenses for an x-t1.




Dec 18, 2014 at 01:22 PM
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cmboland wrote:
Hey Everyone,

This topic tends to be beat to death on photo forums but I wasnt able to find one on this thread. Those of you who have changed from FF DSLR to Fuji x please comment.

What made you switch?

What do you normally shoot?

Is there anything you miss about your FF DSLR?



I also had Canon FF amd 1.3x crop until this year. I got tired of waiting for Canon to release something I was interested in and started looking around at different options just for fun. Picked up an X-E2 and after that I stopped using my Canon gear for anything but sports and wildlife.

1. Size and weight, better DR (5DII) and excellent lenses at a reasonable cost

2. Street, architecture, travel, macro work, sports and wildlife

3. I'm not a rabid fan of shallow DOF. I find that f/1.4 and 1.2 on a crop meets my needs quite nicely. For sports and wildlife, there are no long Fuji lenses. The new 50-140mm would probably work well for sports on a X-T1. But, I have also added an OMD EM1 plus the new 40-150 f/2.8 for sports. With the upcoming Oly 300mm these 2 lenses should take care of everything I want that Fuji cannot do for me. As a consequence I sold all my Canon gear lately, holding on to one 1DIV just in case. But, it looks like that should go due to lack of use. I miss nothing about my DSLRs and I regard the use of a mirror as outdated technology. Right now I use 2 systems (Fuji and Oly) and that is working for me.



Dec 18, 2014 at 01:49 PM
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Also If anyone has any experience shooting with speedlights off camera please chime in.


Dec 18, 2014 at 02:05 PM
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What made you switch
I had been shooting Fuji for personal use for 2+ years. I had aging original 5Ds that I used for my gigs. I shoot about 10 gigs (events, weddings, portraits) per year. I loved shooting the Fujis, the Canons were just work, and the original 5ds were getting long in the tooth any way ( I needed better high-ISO, for example). It was time to upgrade. Rather than stay Canon and keep my personal/professional cameras separate, I decided to upgrade my Fuji bodies from the X100/X-E1 to X-E2 and X-T1 with newer fast primes. Once the X-T1 and X-E2 came out, they were responsive enough for me to use professionally.

Features I prefer to DSLR:
"What you see is what you get" EVF
MUCH lighter. I end up taking more personal pictures, just because I enjoy having the camera with me more.
Auto-ISO and aperture priority mode are a great way to roll with the Fuji cameras. A much easier and more intutive way to shoot (to me) than using the old DSLR.

What do you normally shoot?
Weddings, events, portraits and family pics.

Is there anything you miss about your FF DSLR?

Hmmmm... the transition from in-focus to out-of-focus is slightly harsher on a crop body. Overall, though, this is a VERY small thing, and you can still shoot shallow DOF. My 23 1.4/56 1.2 combo compares VERY favorably to my former Canon 35 F2 IS/85 1.8 combo.

AF assist light on the speedlite!

Re: Off Camera Flash

I shoot manual off-camera speedlites using the Cactus V6 and RF 60 speedlites. Very easy to adjust settings on the fly. I have used these for studio work flawlessly and have tested them quite a bit, simulating wedding reception conditions by using 2 Off-Camera manual flash in a large room combined with on-camera TTL (EF-42) flash.

I am shooting my first all-Fuji wedding this Sunday, so that will be the first "acid test" for me. So far, though, so good.



Dec 18, 2014 at 02:23 PM
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Compact, light weight, great color, great controls. Wouldn't say I've "switched" as of yet, but I'm liking it thus far. Still struggling with a lot of hunting with the focus system, and lack of flexibility in the flash system is a bit problematic at the moment.


Dec 18, 2014 at 05:09 PM
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I am in the process of selling my Nikon FF gear to go full Fuji. I was introduced to the Fuji X series through the XE1 almost 2 years ago. Loved the image quality, but thought it was a bit slow for my professional work. When the XT-1 came out, all speed issues were gone and I knew it was a matter of time for me to switch completely. Now that the 50-140mm Fuji is out, I'm able to leave Nikon completely. The XT-1 gives me outstanding image quality in a package that is less obtrusive and much more enjoyable to use, allowing me to get shots that I couldn't with a DSLR.

What made you switch?
Fujinon lens quality, Fuji color, less obtrusive size

What do you normally shoot?
Portraits, commercial, some weddings

Is there anything you miss about your FF DSLR?
Every now and then the speed of a DSLR is nice, but the style I prefer to shoot is a bit slower and methodical




Dec 18, 2014 at 05:39 PM
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I was lured to Fuji X by an X10 compact, then took a plunge to the deep end when the two Touits were briefly offered at half price. I've used them on an X-Pro 1, side-by-side with my trusty Sony a850 and some good old Maxxum lenses. Surprisingly, the raw file size advantage of eight extra MP was the only advantage to my FF system. The Fuji shots were sharper all around. Sure, the Sony could take Zeiss lenses too, but they'd be three times the weight and price of my Touits.

Mostly my FF Sony is used for professional interior shots with wide lenses. The Fuji can do that work, but I find the EVF (necessary with wide lenses) is a hindrance. It can't handle the extreme brightness difference between interiors and bright windows like an OVF can, so it only loses all detail in the shadows. For now, I need a DSLR for that work. The Fuji's been great for travel and portraits.

I could never have an XP1 as my only camera. Sometimes I need all those bells and whistles offered by a DSLR, like IBIS. I still prefer OVFs, and the XP1's OVF is useless beyond the range of 18-60mm. I'm coming to think of DSLRs as specialist cameras meant for very wide or long lenses.



Jan 05, 2015 at 12:46 AM
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I have not given up my Canon system yet. But I have the X-E1 with the kit lens & a newly acquired 23/1.4.

+ The more I use the Fuji, the more I like what I'm seeing. Great images right off the camera, even with the relatively cheap kit lens.
+ the lenses are great: smaller, lighter, great IQ
+ the small size makes a big difference to me. Now I reach for it more than my Canons. Also, its retro design elicits curiosity sometimes. And it's unobtrusive.
+ easier to use MF lenses

Now for the things that have not made me switch completely:
- the few times when I do need the FF look.
- Action/wildlife is not possible with available Fuji lenses. The 50-140 is too short for wildlife. I'm going to upgrade to the Canon 100-400 II for that.
- EVF lag can sometimes be disconcerting. The Sony A6000 is much better than my X-E1 in this respect.
- responsiveness is lacking. the A6000 is much faster in AF and allows you to take many more FPS. The X-T1 is obviously faster than the X-E1that I have, but I don't know if it's comparable to the A6000 or the DSLRs meant for action.

So, in short, I'm keeping both: Canon for action, and the few times I need FF & can handle a heavier system, Fuji for travel and general use. Now, I know I'm crazy, but I do plan on adding the A7 II to my stable a little later for a light FF travel camera. At that time I may end up selling my 6D, and use the Canon only for sports/wildlife.



Jan 05, 2015 at 01:10 AM
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Wheatridger wrote:
I was lured to Fuji X by an X10 compact, then took a plunge to the deep end when the two Touits were briefly offered at half price. I've used them on an X-Pro 1, side-by-side with my trusty Sony a850 and some good old Maxxum lenses. Surprisingly, the raw file size advantage of eight extra MP was the only advantage to my FF system. The Fuji shots were sharper all around. Sure, the Sony could take Zeiss lenses too, but they'd be three times the weight and price of my Touits.



What Sony lenses are you talking about? The full frame Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 lens weighs 120 grams while the Fuji X mount Zeiss Touit weighs 210 grams. Winner: Sony.

The Sony full frame 55mm f/1.8 lens weighs in at 281 grams while the Fuji 55mm f/1.2 weighs in at 405 grams. Winner: Sony.

Even the variable aperture zoom lens from Fuji weighs more than the Sony Zeiss full frame 55mm fast prime. It's weight is 330 grams.

So what Sony lens weights 3 times what the Fuji mount lenses do?




Jan 05, 2015 at 01:16 AM
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I've been around this myself and come out the other end... I was Canon FF with original 5D which was lovely, then I got in to 1D's which were really fab but very heavy.

As soon as the X100 came out I got one and loved it to bits although I hated the slow focus but following a bugler taking everything I started again but this time to Nikon with D800e - stunning IQ etc etc - and then got an X-E1 with 35mm lens and 18mm etc. A really lovely camera but also frustrating as I wasn't as sold on the IQ or 'look'. I found I spent ages in PP to get things to look as I 'saw' them, I could get this out of the Nikon right away.

To try and reduce weight and get as compact as possible I ended up with the Nikon DF. I love it and it's brilliant in every way - a bit large but not bad. Only issue still is that the AFS primes are large - but good. Mag editors I work for haven't noticed the pixel reduction either!

Anyway, I've ended up selling off the Fuji's and am about to sell off the D800e and zooms and will be using the DF with M240 - I've at last found what I've been looking for, compact but excellent IQ - and fun to shoot with



Jan 05, 2015 at 02:55 AM
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cmboland wrote:
I'd be interested to see a sample of some of your theater shots! I'm debating selling my d600 and lenses for an x-t1.



I am not set up to post to the forum, and don't use flicker, about the only thing I could offer is to have you friend me on FB-I do post outtakes there.



Jan 05, 2015 at 10:21 AM
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I went FF DSLR to m4/3 to Sony APS-C NEX to Fuji X and then finally back to FF with Sony A7

All systems are good, but I'm happiest with FF overall, and finally we have mirrorless options for FF

Totally can leave the DSLR at home most of the time



Jan 05, 2015 at 10:40 AM
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rattymouse wrote:
What Sony lenses are you talking about? The full frame Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 lens weighs 120 grams while the Fuji X mount Zeiss Touit weighs 210 grams. Winner: Sony.

The Sony full frame 55mm f/1.8 lens weighs in at 281 grams while the Fuji 55mm f/1.2 weighs in at 405 grams. Winner: Sony.

Even the variable aperture zoom lens from Fuji weighs more than the Sony Zeiss full frame 55mm fast prime. It's weight is 330 grams.

So what Sony lens weights 3 times what the Fuji mount lenses do?



I agree that lens weight is mostly related to light gathering ability. Thus it's not surprising that a f/1.8 lens is heavier than a f/2.8 lens. ...or that f/1.2 is heavier than f/1.8. We could compare Sony 55/1.8 to the Fuji 35/1.4, but then the 55/1.8 gathers bit more light. Mirrorless lenses are however in general probably somewhat lighter than SLR lenses.



Jan 05, 2015 at 11:29 AM
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hauxon wrote:
I agree that lens weight is mostly related to light gathering ability. Thus it's not surprising that a f/1.8 lens is heavier than a f/2.8 lens. ...or that f/1.2 is heavier than f/1.8. We could compare Sony 55/1.8 to the Fuji 35/1.4, but then the 55/1.8 gathers bit more light. Mirrorless lenses are however in general probably somewhat lighter than SLR lenses.



I still have no idea what Sony lenses the poster was referring to.




Jan 05, 2015 at 04:14 PM
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rattymouse wrote:
I still have no idea what Sony lenses the poster was referring to.



He was using the a850 which is a Sony A mount DSLR, so the Sony lenses he was talking about would be either the ZF lenses adapted to Sony or the Sony/Zeiss A mount lenses compared to his Touit lenses. So his Touit 12mm f/2.8 weighs 270g, but a Zeiss ZF 18 f/3.5 would weigh 470g plus the weight of an adapter, so about twice the weigh for the Zeiss full frame lens. The other Touit lens is almost certainly the 32mm f/1.8 and it weighs just 210g, which is much smaller than the Sony/Zeiss 50 f/1.4 which weighs 518g or about 2.5 times as much. So, it is true that getting a Sony mirrorless would let him get smaller lenses, but he had a Sony DSLR and the Zeiss lenses for the are quite large.



Jan 05, 2015 at 04:45 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
He was using the a850 which is a Sony A mount DSLR, so the Sony lenses he was talking about would be either the ZF lenses adapted to Sony or the Sony/Zeiss A mount lenses compared to his Touit lenses. So his Touit 12mm f/2.8 weighs 270g, but a Zeiss ZF 18 f/3.5 would weigh 470g plus the weight of an adapter, so about twice the weigh for the Zeiss full frame lens. The other Touit lens is almost certainly the 32mm f/1.8 and it weighs just 210g, which is much smaller than the Sony/Zeiss 50 f/1.4 which weighs
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Thanks! Somehow I missed seeing A850 in his post. Now it's clear.




Jan 05, 2015 at 04:58 PM
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What made you switch? Size and real aperture on the lenses.

What do you normally shoot? Street, portraits, stage

Is there anything you miss about your FF DSLR? shallower DOF on longer lenses.



Jan 06, 2015 at 08:28 PM





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