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Archive 2014 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


I’m trying to give advice quickly on two Canon cameras that I know nothing much about to my gal. She looking at buying either the Canon 70d or the new 7Dmk2. Just quickly she already has 2 1Dx’s and a 5Dmk3 and a wide series of lenses. Bulk of her work is landscapes and wildlife and the 1Dx’s get plenty of work.

She would like a light weight camera for day hikes to do macro and landscapes. She sees the advantage of the 70d flip out screen for use on a tripod set low to the ground. But I think you would need a cover over your head to block the light to see it. She is also looking at either a Tamron or Sigma lens in the 16, 18 to ~270 mm range (need to ask her for exact ones) to go with it.

I can see the advantages of the 7Dmk2 on the wildlife side, but she says has the 1Dx for that.

Will she be happy with a 70d? I hate buying things and not being happy with your choice that just end up not used. I have bookmarked a few posts for her to look at but if you have any direct comments please do share. THANKS!



Dec 17, 2014 at 01:58 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


The 7D 2 is no smaller than the 5D3.

The 70D is, a little.

Image quality with the 70D and 7D2 will be lower than her other cameras.

The 6D is smaller, lighter and has image quality just as good as the 5D3.

If you really want to go small, consider the Rebel EOS SL1.



Dec 17, 2014 at 04:22 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


Honestly a7r.


Dec 17, 2014 at 04:59 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


+1 for SL1


Dec 17, 2014 at 05:04 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?




RobDickinson wrote:
Honestly a7r.


Honestly with the cameras she has she probably prefers functional autofocus.



Dec 17, 2014 at 05:50 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


I agree, the 7D2 and 5D3 are almost the same size and weight, so her load will not be any lighter. The 70D is a little smaller and lighter but the 285g weight savings over the 5D3 isn't much to shout about. The SL1--at 370g--offers significant weight and size savings--nipping at the coattails of mirrorless--if she can live with an APS-C CMOS. It's so small and light with the 24 2.8 STM it has a permanent place in my messenger bag and has replaced my Oly Pen and iPhone as walk around camera.


Dec 17, 2014 at 07:33 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


Thanks for your comments thus far. You have her looking at mirror less systems like the Sony Alpha 6000 for day hiking-backpacking, even for traveling taking city/people scenes. Something we have never even thought of. but the wheels of knowledge has started turning to learn about this new technology.


Dec 17, 2014 at 07:59 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


I don't get it. Your GF has two 1DXs and a 5D3 and she is asking your advice who needs to ask us? Well, OK then. I'll add my vote to the SL1/100D list. IQ is not much different than the other Canon APS Cs which can't match FF, but not bad within limits. SL1 + 10-16 STM + 24 STM + 55-250 STM. 2.74 lbs, 16..400 FF equiv range. Add the nice 60 EFs or macro/portrait (+ .75 lb), (but the 55-250 does 1:3.2 on its own and takes a 58mm 500D nicely). Nice little kit as an alternative to the big guns. She has the performance covered, this one's for convenience. This is nominally my wife's kit but I use it more than she does. Enjoy.


Dec 17, 2014 at 08:03 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


The problems with the A6000 are that the kit lens isn't very good, that you'll pay in both cost and weight for decent lenses, and that there isn't a native macro lens. Which is unfortunate given the size, image quality, and price of the camera itself.

The basic SL1 kit sounds decent, even if used with just the kit lens.



Dec 17, 2014 at 08:24 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


Fuji XT1 + the very good kit lens.
I just had to be different.



Dec 17, 2014 at 09:11 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


I'd also look at a smaller format system of another brand.

EBH



Dec 17, 2014 at 09:31 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


Another vote for the SL1. I use the 10-18mm, 24mm pancake and 50mm 1.8. I'll usually throw the 270ex in too. The three lenses and camera weigh about 2 lbs...which is less than what most of my other lenses weigh on their own.


Dec 17, 2014 at 09:49 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


We now have more information and tools to do some reading and come to a decision. Thanks for the insight you provided. If we have more questions we'll let you know...


Dec 19, 2014 at 12:26 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Canon 70d or 7Dmk2 Macro-Landscapes, hiking?


Spikey131 wrote:
Honestly with the cameras she has she probably prefers functional autofocus.


Very true; I consider my a7s + a7r to be "MF" only bodies. But it's not like 1950 rangefinder cameras; the ability to punch in tight with the EVF and use focus peaking is light years ahead of guessing with many OVF cameras having focusing screens that only work down to about F/2.5 or so. How many times have you "missed" on a F/1.2 shot with AF? Spent hours trying to AFMA?

Manual focusing is near impossible for fast moving objects, but boy, for landscapes (and everything else) it's amazing.




Dec 20, 2014 at 09:06 AM





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