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Hey everyone, just wanted to get some C&C on some work from a wedding that I assisted FM member Scott Mosher on this past summer in San Jose.

I'm mostly just trying to get solid photos of good moments and trying to include some sort of context or narrative if possible.

I still have plenty of work to do to be technically spot on, and despite getting some good moments, I do not think that I shot enough aspects of the wedding to really show what made it unique. I'm kicking myself for not shooting the traditional Greek band that provided the entertainment throughout the reception, at one point there was probably a few hundred dollars' worth of bills all over the dance floor, etc. Those two things were really hallmarks of this wedding, and somehow I didn't shoot anything that I really liked of them, just one of those things I have to work on.

Compared to the really great stuff posted here by everyone of all levels, it's nothing astounding but I'd still like the input.

I have to include a note of thanks to Scott for really thinking out loud for some of his set portraits from this day, and for treating me as an equal, even though I am certain that the information exchange is pretty one sided to my benefit. Scott, you're a great guy, you have great stories ;-), and you tend to keep candy in your rolly bag. Thanks for having me along for this one.

Again, C&C is very welcome/wanted!

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Thanks for looking!

-JT



Nov 19, 2014 at 05:57 PM
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Love #2, great moment. Also really like 4, 5, 15, 24.

I think you need to watch your backgrounds on images when you are shooting up. Shooting up can give your image a different perspective and look but just like any image watch what is happening in the background. As an example, #8, the low angle causes the power lines to cut through the bride's head, you see the ugly gutter of the house and then the bride's hand is covering her mother or gradmother's face. Is you had not been so low much or all of that would have been avoided.

Same thing with 17, 18, great moments and expressions but too much ugly celing. That could have been avoided with a higher angle.



Nov 19, 2014 at 10:05 PM
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i like it, just a little too grainy for me though


Nov 20, 2014 at 12:15 AM
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I think you did a really nice job. I don't mind the grain at all. In fact 13 is my fave grand and all! Not sure how I feel about the tilt on #11. I don't mind tilted images per se, just not sure if it does anything for this particular photo.

Nice set all in all!



Nov 20, 2014 at 11:40 AM
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Will try to comment more later, but I find it fascinating how different this set is than the ones you shot with Duy.



Nov 20, 2014 at 01:55 PM
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Good coverage. Not much connection with the camera, however.


Nov 20, 2014 at 02:04 PM
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MRomine wrote:
Love #2, great moment. Also really like 4, 5, 15, 24.

I think you need to watch your backgrounds on images when you are shooting up. Shooting up can give your image a different perspective and look but just like any image watch what is happening in the background. As an example, #8, the low angle causes the power lines to cut through the bride's head, you see the ugly gutter of the house and then the bride's hand is covering her mother or gradmother's face. Is you had not been so low much or all of that would have been
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Good call on #8, thinking about your comments, I think the better shot would be to exclude the powerlines, and include the face of the relative behind her. I think my original thinking on the shot was just to get a front and center shot of the bride really enjoying this impromptu dance in the backyard. A more straight on angle would probalby have been better, and better yet, I should have stepped back a little to get more people in the shot.

I will admit, generally, I'm just feeling my way around different techniques and still doing a lot of learning what is good and what I like in simple things like how I'm positioned and how I frame. I think that on this day, I experimented with shooting a good bit wider than I was comfortable and shooting up a lot. Like you've pointed out, in the case of #8, it might not have yielded the best shot in that instance.

With shots 17 and 18, where people are making an entrance to the reception, the decision to include the ceiling was deliberate on my part; just my tastes I suppose, but I didn't find the ceiling objectionable (well, except for that HVAC vent), and including it I hoped would give the photos a sense of place and depth. Granted, there is some video light raking across the chandaliers, but I could deal with that. Another part of my thinking was that this was not how the primary would have shot it, and it might have been a perspective that might add to his coverage.

Thanks for the critique, I do appreciate the call out on the inappropriate/non-ideal perspectives I took on some scenes!

PhotoDH wrote:
i like it, just a little too grainy for me though


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eephoto wrote:
I think you did a really nice job. I don't mind the grain at all. In fact 13 is my fave grand and all! Not sure how I feel about the tilt on #11. I don't mind tilted images per se, just not sure if it does anything for this particular photo.

Nice set all in all!


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Thanks for the input, just tried to do my best in between helping out the primary and getting a handle on how to see/use the lenses I rented at the time (35/85, I know, super basic, but new to me!). I agree with you on the tilt, and generally, I don't do it, and if I do, I won't use the end product. In this case, I just wanted to include a little more of the groom since I didn't have much in the story. that's it's not totally sharp, I had to put aside too ;-) Thanks for taking a look!

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Will try to comment more later, but I find it fascinating how different this set is than the ones you shot with Duy.


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Joe, I think that a couple things are at work here; firstly, I was on different lenses than I usually use when I'm with Duy. The weekend that I shot these, I had a second shooting gig as well and had rented 35/85 that I didn't then have. I used those lens on this assisting gig, and I have to admit to experimenting and feeling them out a bit, especially the 35. That probably translated into some of the stranger perspectives/tendencies on display here. I'd be interested in see what exactly you're picking up that's different from my work assisting Duy other than the lensing. Thanks, as always, for checking in!

ZachOly wrote:
Good coverage. Not much connection with the camera, however.


Thanks for looking man, I'd have to agree with the assessment looking at the set. I know that as an assistant, I resign myself to getting just candids, so I think that may lead to the somewhat "disconnected" feeling; though I'm making a large assumption in thinking that that is the "connection" that seems lacking.

Thanks SO much everyone for looking, really appreciate the feedback. Need to know what I'm doing poorly, and what I can do better.

-Joseph



Nov 21, 2014 at 02:39 PM
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JandALight wrote:
With shots 17 and 18, where people are making an entrance to the reception, the decision to include the ceiling was deliberate on my part; just my tastes I suppose, but I didn't find the ceiling objectionable (well, except for that HVAC vent), and including it I hoped would give the photos a sense of place and depth. Granted, there is some video light raking across the chandaliers, but I could deal with that. Another part of my thinking was that this was not how the primary would have shot it, and it might have been a perspective that
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I didn't intend to discourage you from shooting low it can add a nice perspective and mix up your coverage a little more. You just have to watch what is going on in the ceilings because of all the junk that can be up above.



Nov 21, 2014 at 02:51 PM
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You shoot upward a lot and I see lots of double chins. Also the groom at altar has a strong curve I don't understand.


Nov 21, 2014 at 03:13 PM
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I would title this set "Waiting for Ceiling Cat"

JK. My first reaction was, "these are interesting", and then I tried to figure out why and instantly, "oh they are all pointed upwards". I wouldnt say its wrong or bad. I'd pull it back 20% but its your style so whateves.

Also, I love these because I see more candids then I am used to seeing on here. It seems all candid. Great work!

I hate #11. Hate is a strong word. I hate the tilt technique used with the extreme upshot in this case. Doesnt work for me. You don't need to showcase the chandeliers. They have a cameo in many other shots.

Everything else though is fantastic to me.






Nov 22, 2014 at 02:12 AM
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These feel like a talented but very very very short kid was helping his dad at a wedding, and he couldnt find a way to make himself taller for the moments he wanted to cover.

The problem with very short perspectivs on brides larger than a size 2 (for you guys, that's supermodel skinniness) is that it adds visual weight and double chins, as someone else mentioned.

If shooting from low vantage point on purpose, like a cover shot for Vogue from the ground up, you would likely need to be in comtrol of the light and the subject, not seconding, to get something truly flatteing.
In general with women over age 25, stay at eye level or higher when second shooting.

If I were this bride, I would really hate how I looked in 5, 8, 24, & 25.
And that lady with the big stomach on the left side of the frame in #1 would truly despise that image. The framing concept was good, but it presented that woman in an extremely unflattering way.

I suggest for basic improvement working on understanding posing, and why certain angles flatter or not. Even as a second shooter with covering unscripted moments, you want the bride to feel pretty in the photos, not fat or ugly, and that is hugely determined by a combination of lens choice, camera angle, and composition.
There is a reason why good shorter photographers often carry a ladder or stool in their trunk.




Nov 22, 2014 at 06:07 PM
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Hard to shoot down when you're shorter than everyone

I'll give a critique on Monday when I'm back at the office. Overall I liked your set.

form wrote:
You shoot upward a lot and I see lots of double chins. Also the groom at altar has a strong curve I don't understand.




Nov 22, 2014 at 06:50 PM
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Hi There,

I think in general the moments you captured are fantastic. In this business its all about capturing emotions and moments. Fantastic job!

Technically, like many have already mentioned try not to shot so low. This has a very unflattering effect, especially on women.

I would not worry much about posing because your style seems to be very photojournalistic and trying to capture the story and moment. Instead concentrate on composition.

Try to get some sort of a fill light into those harsh shadow areas and possibly decrease the contrast somehow. I really love that you are going for the natural light look, but try find a way to balance that highlight:shadow ratio.

Otherwise fantastic job and I'm sure the B&G and family loved your work.



Nov 22, 2014 at 06:53 PM
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2, 4, 23 are really good. Figure out what you did there and drive at that.

Your proximity or focal length in 6 could have really changed that photo into a portfolio shot. Do yourself a favor and crop everything out except maybe grandmom and some of grandpop....

Good foundation....



Nov 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM
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"2, 4, 23 are really good. Figure out what you did there and drive at that."

The brides chin is down, not up, in these three. Thats's what I meant about learning posing principles- understanding them matters for candids just as much as for directed portraits.



Nov 23, 2014 at 09:54 PM
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Thought it was really good stuff overall. Was not crazy about some up the up-angle shots. That is the least flattering angle on most people, and I think in some of these cases, it did not show the subjects at their best.


Nov 23, 2014 at 11:10 PM
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i didn't really notice how much you were shooting upwards until i started reading the comments, personally. but that's probably because i was looking for the emotion/expression in the set since it's one of the things i've been pushing from you to hone in on. In terms of that I think it's really really good--you got a lot of great moments and expressions here.

Regarding what slophoto mentioned, I think part of what is different is when Joe (the OP) works with me, he's pretty much a third shooter/assistant so tends to be out of the action, requiring a little more of a longer lens for a lot of the day. Here he's getting access and perhaps he's still in the mindset of staying out of the way and therefore staying low. But i'm just speculating.

I agree with everything Chuck said.

11) is super crazy tilted. if you're going to tilt, find a line to anchor the scene. there are a lot of strong lines in that image, but you're not really using a single one. don't just tilt for the sake of it. although i'm sure you know how i feel about that.



Nov 24, 2014 at 11:06 PM
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MRomine wrote:
I didn't intend to discourage you from shooting low it can add a nice perspective and mix up your coverage a little more. You just have to watch what is going on in the ceilings because of all the junk that can be up above.


MRomine, no worries, I took your suggestions as a very sensible caution to be aware to be mindful of what's up in the ceiling. I know I just have to be judicious and careful about when to shoot that way; I found your comments very constructive. Not sure if I mentioned it before, but that day I just really tried (to my detriment I'm thinking) to see what I could do from that angle, and the expense of nearly everything else. It's good that you called me on it, because as you and many have pointed out correctly, it's not the best/most flattering in many situations
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form wrote:
You shoot upward a lot and I see lots of double chins. Also the groom at altar has a strong curve I don't understand.


I agree on both points, and judging myself, very out of character. Again, the theme of the day seemed to be to just try stuff. Some of it worked sometimes, a lot of it never worked at all. This may be some of the latter. Thanks for looking though, I really don't mind the critique, I find it invaluable.
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Depth of Feel wrote:
I would title this set "Waiting for Ceiling Cat"

JK. My first reaction was, "these are interesting", and then I tried to figure out why and instantly, "oh they are all pointed upwards". I wouldnt say its wrong or bad. I'd pull it back 20% but its your style so whateves.

Also, I love these because I see more candids then I am used to seeing on here. It seems all candid. Great work!

I hate #11. Hate is a strong word. I hate the tilt technique used with the extreme upshot in this case. Doesnt work for me.
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Thanks for the critique, I think It's all very fair. Yeah, the set does seem to be a call out to the ceiling cat meme, doesn't it, haha. My sets tend to be all candids because, well, that's what I can get if I'm assisting; however, I think that in my own weddings going forward, I will probably make that an emphasis.

Good call on #11, like I mentioned earlier, I think I only included it here to sthe set felt more rounded out...it bothers me the more I look at it, but at least it's getting people to look, even if in disdain.
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skg photos wrote:
These feel like a talented but very very very short kid was helping his dad at a wedding, and he couldnt find a way to make himself taller for the moments he wanted to cover.

The problem with very short perspectivs on brides larger than a size 2 (for you guys, that's supermodel skinniness) is that it adds visual weight and double chins, as someone else mentioned.

If shooting from low vantage point on purpose, like a cover shot for Vogue from the ground up, you would likely need to be in comtrol of the light and the subject, not
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All good points, and I agree with most of them; the angle these were shot at did not do anyone any favors. This set was a bit of an anomaly, brought on by probing what works for me shooting wider, with obviously a lot of missteps along the way. I understand posing/focal length/angles on an academic level, but my own admission, I'm at a stage where I need to try these things out to convince myself what does and doesn't work for what I want to do...and even to figure out what I want to do in the first place. It's been a great year for me, with a couple breakthroughs I feel, but a lot of stuff like where i am just trying to figure stuff out.

As far as shot #1, that is an observation that I hadn't considered, and I would rather her not be at an angle to make her look bad, but I still like the shot for what it is.

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Scott Mosher wrote:
Hard to shoot down when you're shorter than everyone

I'll give a critique on Monday when I'm back at the office. Overall I liked your set.



Thanks Scott ;-)
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beachbumphoto wrote:
Hi There,

I think in general the moments you captured are fantastic. In this business its all about capturing emotions and moments. Fantastic job!

Technically, like many have already mentioned try not to shot so low. This has a very unflattering effect, especially on women.

I would not worry much about posing because your style seems to be very photojournalistic and trying to capture the story and moment. Instead concentrate on composition.

Try to get some sort of a fill light into those harsh shadow areas and possibly decrease the contrast somehow. I really love that you are going for the natural light look,
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Thanks for the nice comments, and I generally agree the angle was too low for much of this and not flattering. As I've mentioned, I was experimenting (failing) a lot here, but I'm glad I'm catching some sort of emotion at the least.

As far as filling in shadows, to be honest, if shots come out of with a lot of contrast and shadows fall off suddenly I don't really mind, especially if they are in nice window light. It is what it is at that point. Though, at receptions, if I have a couple different light sources giving accent/rim, i'm usually always bouncing a good amount of fill only my subjects to get tone down the contrast.

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canerino wrote:
2, 4, 23 are really good. Figure out what you did there and drive at that.

Your proximity or focal length in 6 could have really changed that photo into a portfolio shot. Do yourself a favor and crop everything out except maybe grandmom and some of grandpop....

Good foundation....

yeah, looking at it now (I editing this set a couple months ago), window isn't adding anythign there, and i wish I had a more "front on" angle on it with the window to my left. However, I think that maybe scott was there already? That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. I am glad that I anticipated something good was coming up there though, but was in an odd spot. baby steps, folks!
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skg photos wrote:
"2, 4, 23 are really good. Figure out what you did there and drive at that."

The brides chin is down, not up, in these three. Thats's what I meant about learning posing principles- understanding them matters for candids just as much as for directed portraits.


skg, thanks for looking, I agree those are probably the best shots from the set, esp. if you look at the posing/angle. With this set, I think that I was exploring a low angle a bit much, sacrificing a lot of solid shots from waist to eye level. Thanks for looking and for the advice.

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joelconner wrote:
Thought it was really good stuff overall. Was not crazy about some up the up-angle shots. That is the least flattering angle on most people, and I think in some of these cases, it did not show the subjects at their best.


Thanks, I agree, just have to take my knocks for trying the weird low angles on this one I guess.

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i didn't really notice how much you were shooting upwards until i started reading the comments, personally. but that's probably because i was looking for the emotion/expression in the set since it's one of the things i've been pushing from you to hone in on. In terms of that I think it's really really good--you got a lot of great moments and expressions here.

Regarding what slophoto mentioned, I think part of what is different is when Joe (the OP) works with me, he's pretty much a third shooter/assistant so tends to be out of the action, requiring a little
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Duy, you hit it right on the head with my mindset of staying out of hte way, which translated a lot to just staying low/crouched. There was a type during the entrance when I figured scott would be shooting my way, so I tried to stay low to get out of his sight lines; though in restrospect, i probalby should have moved somewhere else so that I'd be out of hte way and be able to "shoot level" more. That, coupled with being pretty new to the 35 in a confined space all contributed to the use of low angles here, thinking back on it.

yeah, #11 was a failure to edit myself. I should have just left it out and let this set be pretty groom-light. Live and learn, I suppose. Thanks for looking, Duy, I really appreciate the time.

Thanks everyone for the advice, here and on PM. I'm actually glad I posted this set, just for the comments here. I have taken something from every single one here, and I don't think there were any without merit. In fact, I think a lot of the advice was a very good guy to just doing better work, which I know we all try to do, but is especially important for me being so early on.

Hopefully, I'll be able to look back on this first season and see where I have improved and where I've come from, and in time develop a style and figure out where I want to go.




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Many of your shots are tightly shot. This can cause issues during printing. Don't be afraid to give shots more room. They'll still look great, but print properly when cropped.


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JandALight wrote:
yeah, #11 was a failure to edit myself. I should have just left it out and let this set be pretty groom-light. Live and learn, I suppose. Thanks for looking, Duy, I really appreciate the time.


I'm not saying you should throw the baby out with the bathwater. I'd avoid taking in these critiques as right and wrong and more of reaction to what you've shown. Like I said, what I was looking for specifically when I first looked through these were expressions and moments. I'm not exactly sure, but my assumption was that 11 is a photo of him as he's watching the bride come down? If so, then it's a nice moment, and good expression (better if he were weeping or whatever, but you can't control that). So build on that. What does it look like if you messed with the cropping of the photo. Play with it. That kind of exercise of finding compositions within a photo will help you later on because you'll have worked on seeing a frame within the frame as you're looking through the viewfinder and learn how to adjust.

When reviewing your own work, don't just focus on the flaws of the good photos and what can be improved there. Look at the "maybe" pile and see what's working. Build on what's working while you're correcting your mistakes.



Nov 26, 2014 at 02:15 PM
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