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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


Renting a lens seems to be impossible in my country, and if you find somebody who does, they de not have the 85mm 1.2, so testing the lens is not possible, that's why i post this post here.

I am shooting most of the time handball, very dark places, so a lot of light is needed, so 1.2 looks nice, but isn't it making the DOF to small for nice pictures?? I am now using the 135mm 2.0 and i love the lens, but some thimes it just get me to close to the action, i would love to get a 85mm for that.

I have been told the focus is slow like hell on the 85mm, but, off course, it does not have to focus from 0 too infinity, so, does somebody have experiance with that

This is what i get now, would love to get more distance (there is no more place to sit farther away)





Ruben Lamers 2014

  Canon EOS-1D X    EF135mm f/2L USM lens    135mm    f/2.0    1/1000s    6400 ISO    0.0 EV  





Ruben Lamers 2014

  Canon EOS-1D X    EF135mm f/2L USM lens    135mm    f/2.0    1/1000s    8000 ISO    0.0 EV  





Ruben Lamers 2014

  Canon EOS-1D X    EF135mm f/2L USM lens    135mm    f/2.0    1/1000s    8000 ISO    0.0 EV  




Aug 21, 2014 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


Russ Isabella has shown some outstanding gymnastics photos using the 1Dx and 85 1.2 and even did a few comparisons between it and the 85 1.8, I think. Maybe PM him directly.



Aug 21, 2014 at 07:03 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


I have no experience with that lens... but using an 85mm F/1.2 on a full frame body, shooting a subject at 3 meters (10') will give you approximately 7 cm (0.29') of depth of field... Not enough to even get a whole ball in focus, let alone a player.

That being said, at the same distance your 135mm at F/2 is even worst: 6 cm (0.19').

Assuming you keep your 135mm @ F/2.0 and back up a little bit to get more or less the same field of view as you would get with an 85 mm so that would be 5 meters (16'), you'd get 8 cm of depth of field... So to me it looks like a toss up!

Shorter focal length will give you a better DOF, and since our have a 1Dx, you might want to consider a 50mm F/1.4 (I am not a Canon guy but you get the idea) and crop a little tighter...

Longer distance from the subject will also give you more DOF, so you might also consider a 200mm F/2.0 or even a 70-200mm F/2.8 and step back.

No easy solutions in shooting sports in dark place, but at least you have one of the best camera body for that.

For DOF calculator check out http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

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Aug 21, 2014 at 07:11 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


a 50 mm is to small, I allready tryed the 50mm 1.8 i still have from when i was starting see the picture.

2.8 is getting my shutterspeed to low, or getting my ISO to high. so i do not realy want to use that option.

200mm is again to long, i am sitting allready with my back against the wall.







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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


RubenL: The current version of this lens (Mark II) is much faster than the original, and I think it is up to the task. But keep in mind that the Canon 85 f/1.8 also is a great sports lens, faster than the f/1.2L version.


Aug 21, 2014 at 11:03 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


I am very happy with the results i got





Ruben Lamers 2014

  Canon EOS-1D X    EF85mm f/1.2L II USM lens    85mm    f/1.2    1/1000s    2000 ISO    0.0 EV  





Ruben Lamers 2014

  Canon EOS-1D X    EF85mm f/1.2L II USM lens    85mm    f/1.6    1/1000s    6400 ISO    0.0 EV  





Ruben Lamers 2014

  Canon EOS-1D X    EF85mm f/1.2L II USM lens    85mm    f/1.2    1/1000s    6400 ISO    0.0 EV  




Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


I found that the 85 f/1.2 II is much faster focusing with the 1Dx compared to any other Canon bodies, including the 1D4 and 5D3. With the 1Dx it is certainly fast enough to shoot indoor sports. I even shot BIF off a pier once with 100% in focus shots.

I suspect the high amperage 1dx battery is the difference, because AF on the 5D3 is as fast with other lenses.. The 85f/1.2 MkI is far to slow for anything but portraits and landscapes.



Aug 31, 2014 at 08:47 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Does somebody use the 85mm 1.2 ???


Rubent... good call.

I like how your first two images of your second set posted (w/85) reveal more of the sporting moment story within the frame.

With the trio of shots in your first set posted (w/135), I agree with you. Too tight. The story is cut off on all four edges of the frame. And there is nothing to crop tighter to, in order to save the shots.

The "3D" effect that a full frame sensor and a wide aperture lens brings to the court side also lends a "living" quality to the shots.

Good call.




Sep 04, 2014 at 11:20 PM





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