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MazeRunner
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Nikon D4S or D810?


So I had two D4 bodies, just sold one.. Am thinking about grabbing a D4S or D810 at this point, but can't decide which (I'll like to go D4S/D4 or D4/D810).

The things I'd want:
- quieter shutter (think they both have it, or is it just the D810?) that isn't the usual slow mirror up and shutter (two clanks)
- low light focusing (I know the D4S can do it, but anyone have first hand experience with both and would say the D810 is as fast focusing wise?)
- that one button 100% view (that the D4 had but the D800 didn't)

Any thoughts/suggestions? I have enough memory cards for either. Heard the sRAW was really a glorified JPEG instead of offering the full latitude a real RAW would.

I shoot mostly events and personal sessions, and second shoot weddings. Sometimes breakdancing in low-light.

Thanks!



Aug 02, 2014 at 02:18 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Nikon D4S or D810?


well:
what do you use the D4 for?
what will you use the D810 for?



Aug 02, 2014 at 02:21 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Nikon D4S or D810?


The D800 has the - one button 100% view. It is buried inside the menus so nobody can find this very useful function. Go Nikon!

Control Menu f2 - Multi-selector center button - Play back mode - Zoom - Set Magnification to medium or high.



Aug 02, 2014 at 02:56 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nikon D4S or D810?


What do you shoot?


Aug 02, 2014 at 03:00 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Nikon D4S or D810?


My D4 (not a 4s) is WAY louder than my 810.

The biggest question is what is the camera used for? The D810 is better than the 800 when it comes to action, but the D4 series is still a step above. However, for landscapes I'll take those 36 MP and that crazy DR all day long. At this point, I really kind of feel like the D4 is a more specialized body specifically aimed towards catching action at critical moments. The D810 is a much more all around body IMO.



Aug 02, 2014 at 03:58 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Nikon D4S or D810?


I'd like to know why you got rid of a D4. Are you not happy with it?


Aug 02, 2014 at 04:01 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon D4S or D810?


@sjms: I would use it as a replacement for my D4. I like the idea of a D810 getting me additional MP without the large files with sRAW, and the idea of a quieter shutter and electronic front curtain combined with EXPEED4 for the ISO advantage, but at the same time, would like the performance capability of a D4 with the new 5-point group AF that focuses on closest object (for breakdancing, mostly). So, that's why hard to decide. The D810 has that quiet shutter and extra resolution. The D4s has the flagship performance.

@M635_Guy: I shoot mostly events and personal sessions (like family, seniors, etc.) and occasionally second shoot.

@BrunoS72: AHAHAHA. THANKS NIKON FOR MAKING IT EASY!

@rondphoto: I got an offer I just couldn't refuse, and am thinking about the upgrade anyways. It made sense.



Aug 02, 2014 at 06:01 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Nikon D4S or D810?


well, that its not. it is targeted for a different type of work. a D4/D4s is a tool of the PJ, the action archiver, the sports shooter. the D810 can and will augment you shooting range but not replace the D4/D4s. it is more of an archiving tool for the single image. the shot you can spend a little more time to do.

your explanation reads like an ad. it does not have the overall same type of performance of a D4/D4s or really too near it either. it does have pure raw image size though.

next weekend i will shoot the Jr nationals Ultimate Frisbee tournament. now that is some fast movement. yes i will have my D810 with me but that will be for the trip back and the lighthouses and national park shots i'll also be doing. my D4s will do the required work at the ultimate event and if i didn't have that it would have been my D4 that i previously used.




























Aug 02, 2014 at 06:34 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Nikon D4S or D810?


Well I just picked up a D4 at a good price. I guess I'll hold out a bit longer.

If only the D4S has the same shutter sound as a D810, this would have been a no-brainer.



Aug 02, 2014 at 08:16 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Nikon D4S or D810?


The price you pay for the higher frame rate


Aug 02, 2014 at 10:03 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Nikon D4S or D810?


I really think the D4 focuses better than the D800, and that the D4S likely focuses better than the D810... I mean, there is that price difference.

But that quieter shutter would be so neat at weddings!



Aug 02, 2014 at 10:12 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Nikon D4S or D810?


Actually they both are real close


Aug 02, 2014 at 11:23 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Nikon D4S or D810?


sjms wrote:
Actually they both are real close


Is it really? I can't find a video anywhere of the D4S's shutter sound (and I don't mean the 2.5MP silent mode).



Aug 03, 2014 at 12:43 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Nikon D4S or D810?


MazeRunner wrote:
Is it really? I can't find a video anywhere of the D4S's shutter sound (and I don't mean the 2.5MP silent mode).


I think he meant between the D4 and D4s. The D4s shutter sound is decidedly different from that of the D4, but it is not quieter.



Aug 03, 2014 at 04:16 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Nikon D4S or D810?


maybe just a little bit.


Aug 03, 2014 at 04:57 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Nikon D4S or D810?


The D4s does have a better focus engine than the D4 and the D810.
Its even better than the Canon 1dx in overall focus speed.
However, it comes at a huge price tag when compared to the D810.



Aug 04, 2014 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikon D4S or D810?


mongoose777 wrote:
The D4s does have a better focus engine than the D4 and the D810.
Its even better than the Canon 1dx in overall focus speed.
However, it comes at a huge price tag when compared to the D810.


Still waiting to see a good comparison between the D4S and 1D X; do you have a link or first-hand experience?



Aug 04, 2014 at 08:18 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Nikon D4S or D810?


I'm OK with the price tag. The increase in gigs is justifying it. But I just wanted a D4s with a quiet shutter like the D810.


Aug 04, 2014 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Nikon D4S or D810?


johnctharp wrote:
Still waiting to see a good comparison between the D4S and 1DX; do you have a link or first-hand experience?


Im sorry was I supposed to give you one?

Here are some that I have studied and btw I have also shot a 1Dx from a close colleague.
Since your a Canon guy trolling over to the dark side of the mighty Nikon forum looking for a smack down, Im sure you'll find something wrong with the tests, but since your also from Texas and in my neck of the woods, I will find you and slap the C**** out of you
They are both very close, but IMO and others related tests will prove the D4s has a slight to superior edge in some areas.

http://scottkelby.com/2014/why-i-switched-to-canon/

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-1D-X-vs-Nikon-D4s

http://petapixel.com/2014/03/11/nikon-d4s-beats-canons-1d-x-dxomark-tests-falls-short-df-low-light/

http://www.reddotphoto.com.sg/content.php/422-Nikon-D4s-VS-Canon-1Dx-Comparison

http://www.ronmartblog.com/2014/05/comparison-nikon-d4s-vs-canon-1d-x-part.html

http://neilvn.com/tangents/review-nikon-d4s-auto-focus-af/

http://versus.com/en/nikon-d4s-vs-canon-eos-1d-x

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Aug 04, 2014 at 11:25 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Nikon D4S or D810?


I believe the poster was just requesting what your source claiming the focus speed was better than the 1D X was, no need to be snarky.

I am holding off on a D4S to see what Canon has in store with the 1D X Mark II. It took Nikon 2 years to fix some issues with the D4. Things like AF issues and auto white balance improvements. Canon was leading ahead of the D4 up until now, and I am afraid they might take the lead again with the next release. Edit: And from Ron's article is sounds like the D4S STILL has a tendency to have a green tint. That is just unacceptable.

On the other hand, I am close to upgrading my D800E to the 810.



Aug 05, 2014 at 12:12 AM
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