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herion
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


I have an older Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 EX DC lens and after a trip back to Sigma for recalibration, it's a beauty.

But I'm getting a hankering for a change.

Just wondering if there are any "L" quality lenses for APS-C by Canon in the same range - the 17-55 seems to have sharpness and contrast problems; the "new" Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 has seems to also have autofocus problems.

So in your opinion, is there such a lens?

Canon should come out with a sky-blue banded line of lenses - "L" quality but for APS-C bodies. "K" lenses...



Jul 23, 2014 at 08:09 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


I have only ever heard praise for the canon 17-55/2.8.

That said, I have never used one and transitioned to FF cameras as soon as I could in order to use the 24-70L. If you want access to full breadth of normal range zooms I think the answer is and always has been to buy a full frame camera.

All of that to say, it sounds like you need to start renting some lenses and decide for yourself whether they work for you. The internet is so hypercritical of everything less than $2000 lenses and overly praising of lenses that are only sharp and suck in ever other non-measurable metric in the less than $1000 range that it completely loses the in betweens.



Jul 23, 2014 at 08:15 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


Canon's 15-85 seems to get compared to L IQ.


Jul 23, 2014 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


17-55 is a fine zoom




Jul 23, 2014 at 08:48 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


17-55 has some very good glass. Body isn't L quality but the glass probably is L worthy. If you really want full frame performance though, get a full frame camera. Rent one before buying so you'll know if the difference is worth it to you.


Jul 23, 2014 at 08:48 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


herion wrote:
the 17-55 seems to have sharpness and contrast problems;


This was not my experience when I owned the lens and used it on my 450D and 7D.

I eventually sold it for the better range and smaller size of the EF-S 15-85, which is also a fine choice if you don't mind a variable aperture lens.



Jul 23, 2014 at 08:59 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


I think my wife's 18-135 STM is a good lens, it is no worse, optically, than the 24-105L.


Jul 23, 2014 at 09:23 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


Toss your coin between the 18-35/1.8 Art, 17-55/2.8 IS, and 15-85- and throw the 17-70 OS C in there too.

The 17-55 is still going to be your all-around 'best', and you can definitely use the speed when shooting Canon's APS-C cameras.



Jul 23, 2014 at 09:50 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


I use my 17-40L as a walk around lens but could just as easy go for the new 16-35L IS or if I didn't need wide could manage just fine with the 24-105L IS. I've thought about the 17-55 but just can't pull the trigger, although it would be sweet on my 7D


Jul 23, 2014 at 10:02 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


I loved the 17-55 2.8. I don't think it has sharpness or contrast issues either.


Jul 23, 2014 at 10:08 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


Ah dunno but I suspect those people suffering sharpness issues with their 17-55 2.8 had an unsteady hand or bum AF system in their camera. It's about as close to L IQ as it gets. With that said, it's heavy and bulky zoom and the 15-85 IS is just as good optically--but with smoother zoom movement--if you don't need F2.8.


Jul 23, 2014 at 10:27 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


herion wrote:
... the 17-55 seems to have sharpness and contrast problems


These are two areas that the 17-55 doesn't have a problem with.

I sold mine for other reasons: too big for a walk-around, sub-par build quality for
such a hefty lens, and bokeh at the tele end too busy for portraits.

But sharpness is something that this lens excels at (together with low distortion and low CAs).



Jul 23, 2014 at 11:07 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


APS-C walkaround = 17-55 f/2.8. <- that would have an L hanging after it but Canon won't put one on a EF-S lens.


Jul 23, 2014 at 11:21 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


PS, I shoot my 17-40L more, but only due to limited subject matter and extremely bad sun angles (car shows.) The 17-55 shows more flare, where the 17-40 is almost immune. For APS-C, the 17-55 is the better "general" choice (by far.)




Jul 23, 2014 at 11:26 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


I say get a 35mm camera and don't invest in weird smaller format glass.


Jul 23, 2014 at 11:32 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


The best IQ choices for EF-S lenses will be:
17-55 IS
10-22
15-85 IS
60 Macro

60 Macro has the best imaging of any EF-S lens that I've tried.

15-85 IS is my favorite EF-S lens for all around shooting.



Jul 24, 2014 at 12:08 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


Yeah, there are no problems with the 17-55 IS. When it came out it was the envy of many FF, f/2.8, L-glass toting shooters.

BTW, the whole L thing is primarily a marketing ploy... that works remarkably well. It's a classic pseudo-professional label aimed at advanced amateurs who are into gear. The highest end pros I know don't distinguish between L and non-L glass.... they pick lenses based on focal length, aperture, and getting over some image quality and/or build threshold for the intended job. In the focal lengths were there's a choice between L and non-L primes, I've seen about 50% of their glass being non-L primes. This is among people for whom their 5D3/D800/1DX is their low end body, by the way.

I wouldn't get caught up in the labels. From all that I've seen and experienced, for instance, the 17-55 IS crushes the 24-105L.




Jul 24, 2014 at 01:11 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


herion wrote:
Just wondering if there are any "L" quality lenses for APS-C by Canon in the same range - the 17-55 seems to have sharpness and contrast problems;
So in your opinion, is there such a lens?






sorry but the 17-55 is a great lens . in fact selling it in my FF 'upgrade' was the biggest regret because it was much better than my 24-105 L lens .

if your comparing it to a Red Ringed L walkaround then its up there with the best of them .

Most of the EFs lenses from Canon are very good .
the 10-22 , 15-85 , 17-55 & 60 macro all cut it with their 'L' cousins



Jul 24, 2014 at 02:01 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


The 24-105 is a touch faster and has more range but I agree, the 17-55 in general is the better lens.


Jul 24, 2014 at 02:02 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · "L" level walkaround for APS-C?


Yep, enjoyed my time with the 17-55. Shame it has a contrast problem.

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Jul 24, 2014 at 02:11 AM
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