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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


Ok, we all know the Sony 36MP sensor is the ducks guts for DR at low ISO and as ISO rises does a good job and is sort of even with the 5D III if you resample down to 5D III res, up to around ISO 6400. But Beyond that ... well you tell me. Now I see this test at imaging resource where they make 8x10 prints at the highest possible ISO that looks clean and detailed and the results are interesting to say the least. I've downloaded high ISO RAWs from the D800 and IMO they can't touch the 1D X even downsampled. So what have other people found? I notice DxOmark rates D800 as better at high ISO than 1D X too, even if it's so close as to not be noticed in real world. Yet this new tes t=rates the D800 a full stop better than 1D X!


http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/07/13/we-present-our-2014-high-iso-8x10-showdown




Jul 14, 2014 at 01:07 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


IMO, DxOmark =

I prefer to see direct comparison images shot of the same subject with equivalent lenses on the cameras being compared.



Jul 14, 2014 at 01:09 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


The article states they were comparing jpegs. It went on to say that if they were comparing raw, results would of been different.


Jul 14, 2014 at 01:14 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


I wanted to see how the two cameras compared, so I took some pictures of my cat.

The first image is the 1Dx at ISO 25,600

The second image would have been taken with my D800, but it was at Nikon again to repair another manufacturing defect...




  Canon EOS-1D X    EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM +2x III lens    400mm    f/5.6    1/400s    25600 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D800    0.0 mm f/0.0 lens    20mm    f/3.5    1/60s    6400 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jul 14, 2014 at 01:43 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


What is DxOmark?


Jul 14, 2014 at 01:48 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


shutterbug guy wrote:
What is DxOmark?


Google it.



Jul 14, 2014 at 01:56 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


Imagemaster wrote:
Google it.


Nah, it'd just be a waste of time.



Jul 14, 2014 at 01:59 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


It really is a bit bogus! First this:

tests are conducted using straight-from-camera JPEGS at default noise reduction settings,

Because making the best files from RAW would be too subjective? Or even setting all of the NR parameters to "Medium"?

But then they don't even show a single print. They admit that part is completely subjective, the judging of prints. But they need to at least share a few samples so that we can tell what they are looking at!

Sometimes it comes down to a self fulfilling prophecy. I have seen many people say, for example, that they really like the noise from XXX camera, finding it very "film like." While I find it obnoxious & distracting & course.

Plus no handy link to samples, just the usual samples from their reviews that you have to go download & compare yourself.

When Michael Reichman compared high ISO files from the Sony 7R to the 7S, he claimed a 3 stop advantage to the 7S!! Many other people looking at his sample images saw less than 1 stop. Which is also what DxO said, etc,.

It could have been a good effort. After all of that work, even if they showed us samples of the output it would have put it all in context. Oh well ... One more limited data point.

Cheers!



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:01 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


So the NR makes jpegs with little noise? Do they look mushy?

EBH



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:04 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


Imagemaster wrote:
Google it.


What is Google?



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:04 AM
 

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


shutterbug guy wrote:
What is DxOmark?

Imagemaster wrote:
Google it.

shutterbug guy wrote:
Nah, it'd just be a waste of time.


Why, has your government taken Google and DXOMark off the web?

EBH



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:10 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


Default Jpg is smoke and mirrors, worthless unless you shoot default jpgs, on a 1dx or d800??

From my experience the 1dx is much better, closely followed by the 6d. There's a reason astro shooters are buying 6d in truckloads..



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:14 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


shutterbug guy wrote:
Nah, it'd just be a waste of time.


Probably why nobody here answered your question.



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:17 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


Sounds fishy.

Also: "Our print quality tests are conducted using straight-from-camera JPEGS at default noise reduction settings, in order to have a common standard on which to base these comparisons. "

sounds silly, how is using default in cam settings a way to produce a standard fair comparison when default settings can radically differ as to how much and what types of NR and sharpening to apply?



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:36 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


I discuss the Canon vs Nikon DxoMark High ISO score discrepancy here.

My D3s vs D800 High ISO comparison here (D3s performs similarly to the 1DX).



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:38 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


gdanmitchell wrote:
What is Google?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google



Jul 14, 2014 at 02:46 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


google google..... mind blown and internet stops working


Jul 14, 2014 at 02:50 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


EB-1 wrote:
Why, has your government taken Google and DXOMark off the web?

EBH


I lost faith in DxO when they put out that certain full frame DSLR's surpassed the medium format cameras in image quality. They are scoring image quality a whole lot different than the way I see it.

Anything that I read put out by DxO is a waste of time imho.




Jul 14, 2014 at 04:29 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


*facepalm*

Why do we even talk about this anymore



Jul 14, 2014 at 04:33 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · So Nikon D800 is better than 1D X at high ISO


molson wrote:
I wanted to see how the two cameras compared, so I took some pictures of my cat.

The first image is the 1Dx at ISO 25,600

The second image would have been taken with my D800, but it was at Nikon again to repair another manufacturing defect...



I actually bursted out laughing. Best post I have seen in a while.




Jul 14, 2014 at 04:37 AM
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