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They are not the same lenses at all. Like you noted not even the same number of elements. In addition, the ZE/ZF Makro Planar has a floating element, which is very helpful for good up close performance. So, I would be surprised it the ZM was nearly as good at close up shooting. The good news is that you don't really need tubes to us M lenses up close. You can get an adapter with a helical in it--Voigtlander makes ones and Hawkes is another popular maker and these allow a much shorter MFD on the Sony cameras. With such an adapter the ZM might be good enough. You might also look at a Leica 50 summicron. I had the R version of that lens and it worked quite well close up. The Leica R 60 macro is another very nice and surprisingly inexpensive option. It is a lot bigger than the ZM, but quite a bit smaller than the Zeiss ZE/ZF.
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