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| p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Suggest a rolling boom stand for Profoto B1 on location |
Micky Bill wrote:
If you are going to to put 15lb on one end of the boom, will you have a counterweight? If you are using it outside will you use sandbags (human or otherwise?) You don;t want that thing falling over.
On my old Bogen Super boom (same as the Manfrotto) there is a 10-ish pound counterweight. But the biggest thing I'd put out there was a norman or hensel head and 4x6 chimera. Not all that heavy.
Yes, absolutely. I will have to use both counterweight and sand bags. No questions on that.
That being said, I still cannot make up my mind as to which stand I should go with. Given the options as well as my intended usage and my concerns, this decision turns out to be tougher than I had expected!
Anyhow, thanks for everyone's inputs on this thread and elsewhere, here is a summary of the options I am considering and the concerns I have with each option:
1) Matthews Baby Jr Triple Riser with Avenger D600:
- Cost: ~$375 ($254 for stand + $121 for boom)
- Weight: 22 lbs (14 for stand + 8 for boom; obviously not including the light fixture, counterweight and sandbags)
Closed Length: 120cm (stand), 117cm (boom)
a) The max weight of my light fixture (~14 lbs) plus D600 (~8 lbs) plus counterweight (say, ~15 lbs) would add up to 37 lbs which would be higher than the max load rating on the stand (30 lbs)!
b) The max load rating on D600 is only 15 lbs at max extension. How conservative is this rating? And does that include the counterweight too? Because if it does, I may be out of luck with D600.
2) Matthews Low Boy Double Riser with Avenger D600:
- Cost: ~$380 ($254 for stand + $121 for boom)
- Weight: 32.5 lbs (24.5 for stand + 8 for boom; obviously not including the light fixture, counterweight and sandbags)
Closed Length: 106.6cm (stand), 117cm (boom)
a) Total carrying weight.
b) Same as (b) for #1, i.e., the load rating on D600.
c) The max height on Low Boy is only 190cm. I obviously can get higher by using the boom, but I was hoping to find a stand that could provide me with enough height when I don't need to use the boom.
3) Matthews Low Boy Double Riser with Avenger D650:
- Cost: ~$480 ($260 for stand + $220 for boom)
- Weight: 42.1 lbs (24.5 for stand + 17.6 for boom; obviously not including the light fixture, counterweight and sandbags)
- Closed Length: 106.6cm (stand), 160cm (boom)
a) Cost! Getting a bit too expensive! Was hoping to keep the total cost around $350 or so.
b) Portability: Seems a bit too heavy for location work. Also D650 seems too long at minimum extension.
c) Sam as (c) for #2, i.e., the low max height on the stand.
4) Avenger A4050CS Combo Boom Stand
- Cost: $492 ($360 for stand + $132 for casters/wheels)
- Weight: 33 lbs
- Closed Length: 165cm
b) Portability. Although the weight is not too bad, it seems too bulky at 165cm closed length. Also the fact that the boom is integrated means that I cannot reduce the weight and the bulk when I don't need a boom in certain situations.
c) Not sure the max load for this stand is when it is used in boom mode. The spec shows 66 lbs load rating, but I assume that is only in non-boom stand mode.
5) Avenger A4039CS Combo Boom Stand
- Cost: $422 ($290 for stand + $132 for casters/wheels)
- Weight: 18.52 lbs
- Closed Length: 113cm
b) Load rating, and whether it would be able to handle ~14 lbs when in boom mode. The spec shows 26.5 lbs, but again I assume that is in non-boom case.
So which option would you go with, and why?