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| p.1 #19 · Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only) |
Thank you Brad.
I believe that lenses designed for full frame 35mm cameras were intended to capture info from edge to edge regardless how edges performed comparing to a center of the frame. There had to be a decision made in each design on how to balance center to age performance, how to compromise the good and bad especially at max aperture, giving each lens its specific 'look'.
I feel that cropping out edges with 4/3 or 1.5/1.6 formats strips visible area that designers intended to show. In similar fashion 3:4 TV pan-n-scan format stripped close to half of CinemaScope or...Show more →
Okay. I understand your analogy (Kubric meant you to see the film in a specific aspect ratio, Mandler designed lenses for a specific format), but where I feel that analogy is weak is that Kubric was presenting you with a finished artistic product where Mandler was creating a tool to be used in an artistic or documentarian process. It's respectful to view any film/photograph/painting/etc. as the artist intended, but since a tool is defined by its usefulness, limiting the use of that tool would be disrespectful to the tool and the toolmaker. So not liking pan and scan and saying you can't fully appreciate a lens unless it's used on some approximation of the format for which it was designed aren't really the same thing at all.
You speak to the designers' intent as though Mandler and team expected the full frame to be used at all times, but common print sizes alone would've informed them that aspect ratio wouldn't be perfect for all situations. Their intent was to make the best lenses they could under the manufacturing restrictions they were given that would cover the frame of the cameras for which they were made. How they got used, or what was used of the resulting images, I'm sure they were smart enough to realize was beyond their control. So selecting sensor size of the 135 format (or a close approximation thereof, since the Sony FFs aren't 36x24) as your sole criteria in an effort to honor their designs, and ignoring the cameras they were designed to be used on and the film they were designed to shoot, makes the choice seem especially arbitrary.
So the restriction comes down to your preference, a preference that's obviously shared by other members. And that's fine. It's your thread. But if you want this thread to celebrate Mandler's designs, then I would recommend opening it up to people who have somehow managed to learn to love the lenses on smaller formats. Until then, it's just about how you and the limited group of contributors feel the lenses should be used.