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Archive 2014 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


I have a 10-22 which I find to be a great lens, but I tend to shoot it mostly at 15-22 on my 20D.
I now also have a 1DMKII, and hopefully soon a 5DIII or 1DMKIV, not sure which one yet.
My question, is the 10-22 about the same optically as the 24-105 quality wise?
Lots of things going on, obviously you can only use the 10-22 on APS-C sensors, so thats pretty limiting, but the 24-105 seems like a great substitute, and I can use it for any camera as well.
Opinions?



Apr 17, 2014 at 09:04 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


Apples to fruitcake comparison? Non-overlapping focal lengths?

Yes, both are very good lenses. However, 15mm is way far away from 24mm.

On full frame, the 17-40 is the near equivalent to the 10-22.



Apr 17, 2014 at 09:57 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


On full-frame, the 16-35 original is the near equivalent of the 10-22 and the Mark II is probably about the same (design-wise but definitely improved optically). Look at the lens diagrams and you'll see how similar they are. The 17-40 is a different kettle of fish.

My feeling is that optically the 10-22 is closer to the 16-35 pair and that the 17-40 is behind in sharpness. The build of the 10-22 is a bit weaker than the 17-40 (and 16-35 pair) though; so there is that aspect of quality too.

The 24-105 is not a substitute for the 10-22 (which is like a 16-35 when you apply the crop factor). Very different ranges, very different usages. Even if you are often in 15-22 on the crop factor (translates to 24-35 on full frame).



Apr 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


Not apples to fruitcakes at all, I said optically about the same, in other words, image quality.I think the 10-22 is one of Canon's best lenses, better on crops than even the 17-40.
The 17-40 was good, but not as sharp. Thats what I'm really asking, is the 24-105 as good optically as the 10-22 ?
I'm sure its not as good as a 24-70 or 16-35, those lenses are in a different league altogether.
Different build quality and especially different price.
Problem I have with the 10-22 isn't image quality or build, I just don't use that particualr range as much.I was shooting panoramas, but found I was using it mostly at 20-22, even more than at 15, so for me at least 20- 24 won't really make that much difference.
10-22 is a great little lens, I would say even underated.



Apr 17, 2014 at 11:19 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


If you want to stitch panoramas, then don't worry about the optical quality of the 24-105. It is plenty good enough.


Apr 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


I think quality is comparable.
Based on copies I have had, the 17-40 wasnt quite as sharp as the 10-22.
While I use the 24-105 on a 5D MkII all the time, I am glad to have the 17-40 for really wide shots. I find I do want to use it for landscapes and some city shots as well
Scott



Apr 17, 2014 at 06:38 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


I went out last weekend and took tripod shots with a 7D/10-22 and a 5DIII 17-40 to compare results. the 17-40 had far less CA, and the images were sharper. Given that result and the general opinion from these posts that the 10-22 is a better lens, I'm wondering if I have a problem with my 7D.

keith



Apr 17, 2014 at 07:39 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


From a QC point of view i think the 10-22 has less sample to sample variation in quality.
I have an excellent 24-105 but still wouldnt say it came up to my old 10-22.



Apr 17, 2014 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


All these lenses suffer sample variation so IQ depends. My 10-22, 17-40 and 24-105 are all in the same ball park IQ-wise. However, I'd characterize the 17-40 as top IQ doggie closely followed by the 24-105. The 10-22 ain't bad but is a level below the other two zooms in every way.

I bought the 17-40 in 2003 and perhaps IQ was tighter with early batches? My 24-105 is of 2006 vintage and is my fav zoom. People badmouth both these lenses constantly but I lucked out and got good ones. On the other hand, my 10-22 was bought last year and falls short of its reputation in terms of IQ but, even worse, feels and looks like a toy compared to the other two zooms.



Apr 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Canon 10-22 vs Canon 24-105 optically about the same?


You really shouldn't compare the IQ of a full-frame tuned lens like the 17-40L or 24-105L on a crop camera with lenses actually tuned crop cameras like the 10-22 or the 17-55/2.8. Good copies of the crop lenses will be sharper on crop cameras, and good copies of the full-frame lenses will be sharper on full-frame cameras. And the full-frame lenses on full-frame cameras will win the IQ comparison every time.

Now, for stopped-down wide landscapish work on full-frame Canon, the 17-40L cannot be beat, not by the more expensive f/2.8 lenses (that are designed with different goals in mind) and not by third-party zooms. The closest you'll get is Tokina's rather sharp 16-28/2.8, which is larger, heavier, doesn't have a filter ring, focuses slower (no 'ultrasonic' motor), and is more suspect to flair both from the difference in coatings and from the bulbous front element.



Apr 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM





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