Home · Register · Search · View Winners · Software · Hosting · Software · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username   Password

  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1      
2
       3              5       6       end
  

TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4
  
 
skibum5
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


I don't entirely trust TDP, but it looks like sigma is better or the same I'd guess f/3.5 and up and easily worse f/1.4-f/2 compared to Otus (plus likely more LoCA).




Apr 16, 2014 at 07:21 AM
skibum5
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


And much better than the Canon 50 1.4 though anywhere remotely near wide open and still same or better to f/5.6, maybe at f/8 it becomes just a trace worse due to more lateral CA though. Looks like maybe more distortion than the 50 1.4 from Canon too.


So Otus is clearly the king with ease talking near wide open. Then Sigma a good ways away and then the rest a huge ways away again yet still.



Apr 16, 2014 at 07:24 AM
jj_glos
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


It's priced too high for me to start off with (I'm happy with my current Sigma 50 for now) so I'll wait a while for the price to drop. I will also be keeping an eye on 50L prices in the second hand market though...


Apr 16, 2014 at 07:31 AM
David Baldwin
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


Congratulations to Sigma, compares very favourably to the Otus in the test shots.

I too look forward to Canon revamping their entire 50mm range. Its time.



Apr 16, 2014 at 08:51 AM
sb in ak
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


I'm waiting for the test shots to see the rendering quality vs. the 50L. I'm tempted to say that the 50L might still have the upper hand in having that haunting quality wide open based on some preliminary shots I've seen.

I am not really a charts or numbers guy.



Apr 16, 2014 at 09:15 AM
Vancouver47
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


sb in ak wrote:
I'm waiting for the test shots to see the rendering quality vs. the 50L. I'm tempted to say that the 50L might still have the upper hand in having that haunting quality wide open based on some preliminary shots I've seen.

I am not really a charts or numbers guy.



It appears the fabled 50L bokeh is mostly just a very soft off centre lens with bokeh.



Apr 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM
codyconway
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


trumps the 50L in sharpness. . . but I guess the real world test is will it have that quality look to the images that make it so unique. Should see mine in about 2 weeks, cant wait!


Apr 16, 2014 at 12:25 PM
Snopchenko
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


sb in ak wrote:
I'm waiting for the test shots to see the rendering quality vs. the 50L. I'm tempted to say that the 50L might still have the upper hand in having that haunting quality wide open based on some preliminary shots I've seen.

I am not really a charts or numbers guy.

Photozone has to say this about the 50L:
"The bokeh (the quality of the out-of-focus blur) is a primary aspect for an ultra large aperture lens. The EF 50mm f/1.2 USM L has a rather mixed characteristic here. In lab conditions we had no problems at all - out-of-focus highlights appear perfectly circular and uniform. [...] However, we do also need to mention an ugly side of the lens. The bokeh can get extremely nervous. [...] It seems as if this occurs primarily at the image borders in combination with a closer proximity to the sharp focus zone (the focus transition zone). You may argue that this is a bit of an artificial setup in this sample image but simple imagine a person standing the focus zone and it's not all that abstract anymore. In any case the border bokeh is far from being pretty or in other words - it's ugly".
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/472-canon_50_12_5d?start=1
So, apparently, it's not all roses either.



Apr 16, 2014 at 01:06 PM
Robin Smith
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


The 50L never does well in resolution tests, in fact the EF 50/1.4 tests about the same, but there are many people who like it because it is f1.2 and has great bokeh - this does not invalidate the purpose of the lens. After all, maximum resolution at f1.4 is largely wasted for many/most shots as so much is out of the plane of focus anyway, so why stress to have it pinsharp? The new Sigma looks to be good, but it will need good AF and I, for one, hate its large size. The trend for many of us is to go smaller (look at the mirrorless faction) and the trends for all the boutique lenses seems to be along the lines of "bigger is better and cooler"- great for a year and then the novelty wears off.


Apr 16, 2014 at 01:41 PM
Robin Smith
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


Also it is worth saying that the Canon EF1.4 at f1.4 is not at all bad. The difference in contrast is apparent when comparing to the Sigma, but boosting the contrast in post will make up for a lot of the apparent lack of sharpness. The resolution of the EF1.4 is not very much less than the Sigma in the edges, according to these charts. The Sigma is better in the center. Anyway, a contrast boost helps with a great deal, as I have found myself with the EF1.4. In fact, I consider the Canon 1.4 a good lens, and for its price and weight, very good.


Apr 16, 2014 at 01:52 PM
 

Search in Used Dept. 



tonytastic
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


I think the biggest issue for me when I had the 50mm 1.4 was that at 1.4, there was significant hazzing which affected the image quality. The reason why I love the 35L and 85L is because it is sharp enough wide open without significant artifacting; that said, I can't wait to get my hands on the new siggy


Apr 16, 2014 at 03:18 PM
Regan
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


I'm already saving for this lens...


Apr 16, 2014 at 05:13 PM
Shield
Online
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


Snopchenko wrote:
Photozone has to say this about the 50L:
"The bokeh (the quality of the out-of-focus blur) is a primary aspect for an ultra large aperture lens. The EF 50mm f/1.2 USM L has a rather mixed characteristic here. In lab conditions we had no problems at all - out-of-focus highlights appear perfectly circular and uniform. [...] However, we do also need to mention an ugly side of the lens. The bokeh can get extremely nervous. [...] It seems as if this occurs primarily at the image borders in combination with a closer proximity to the sharp focus zone (the focus transition
...Show more

The bokeh is amazing on the 50L.

Shield from Fredmiranda forums has this to say about the 50L after using it in the real world:
"The bokeh is amazing on the 50L."


Edited on Apr 16, 2014 at 06:08 PM · View previous versions



Apr 16, 2014 at 06:05 PM
Shield
Online
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


I love me some sharp lenses though, and I certainly hope this Sigma will autofocus more reliably in varying lighting conditions much better than the 35 art.


Apr 16, 2014 at 06:07 PM
kezeka
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


The 50L was/is an embarrassment for Canon. It is soft even if you nail focus, the focus is slow (though not as slow as the 85L), and it took 4 years and a complete redesign of the AF units in Canon cameras in order to get the damn thing to even focus reliably. I hear the 50/1.0 was significantly better in terms of focus reliability but was no speed demon or star performer in many other ways either. I hope Canon is actually working on a replacement but doubt it.

As far as the weight of this lens, as long as it weighs less than the zeiss 135 it shouldn't be too hard to hand hold but no cake walk either. Anything up to the weight of the 85L is pretty easy to walk around with for an afternoon without a camera strap though. I guess I am just not as bothered by this as other people. I will probably be switching my streetlife/travel camera to a FF mirrorless as soon as a decent one is released though.



Apr 16, 2014 at 07:45 PM
johnctharp
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


kezeka wrote:
The 50L was/is an embarrassment for Canon.


All of those autofocusing f/1.2 standard lenses from Nikon and Sony keeping you up at night?



Apr 16, 2014 at 07:54 PM
bboule
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


Anyone worried about the monkey in the room with this lens in that it is really, really big & heavy for a 50mm lens?

It is 1/3 heavier than the 50L. It's just huge... otherwise it looks amazing to me, but the weight is more annoying than the price if I have to look for a reason to not want it.

I threw this together, just a list of some of the lenses I've used a lot to get an idea..

lens weight length diameter
EF50/1.4 10.2oz 2.0" 2.9"
EF35/2 IS 11.8oz 2.5" 3.1"
EF 85/1.8 15.0oz 2.8" 3.0"
EF 50/1.2 19.2oz 2.6" 3.4"
EF 35/1.4L 20.5oz 3.4" 3.1"
EF24-105L 23.6oz 4.2" 3.3"
50/1.4 Art 28.7oz 3.9" 3.4"

It is a huge 50... now granted it does not extend and it's a little shorter than the 24-105 f/4L but for walkaround this is a huge difference from the Canon 50/1.4. IMO the 50L & 35L are not annoying for walking/hiking but the 24-105 f/4L can be.

If I'm carrying a tripod and being slow and "serious" I'm not going to care as much about weight, but then I am probably not going to be shooting at f/1.4 where this lens would have any benefit over the Canon 50/1.4.

Bottom line is I think I'm going to keep waiting to see if Canon comes out with something new... If they did a 50/1.4 , 50/1.8, or 50/2 that was small and had improved AF and quality and possibly IS I would probably go for that over the Sigma.



Edited on Apr 16, 2014 at 08:32 PM · View previous versions



Apr 16, 2014 at 08:29 PM
runamuck
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


Comcast must have put the site on the catholic church's "CONDEMNED" list and by keeping me from the site they are protecting my paltry morals. Maybe I will call and have them send me the results by mail. That would be quicker than Comcast's handling of the site.


Apr 16, 2014 at 08:32 PM
Snopchenko
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


Don't shoot the messenger.

Shield wrote:
The bokeh is amazing on the 50L.

Shield from Fredmiranda forums has this to say about the 50L after using it in the real world:
"The bokeh is amazing on the 50L."




Apr 16, 2014 at 08:53 PM
renowood
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · TDP: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art vs Zeiss Otus 55 f/1.4


bboule +1 This is an amazing lens at a great price but seems huge for a 50mm as is the OTUS. I mostly use my Nikon 50mm 1.4 for general walking around lens. The Sigma seems to be a specialized lens not really for stealth street shooting. Is this aimed more at the portrait/wedding photographer? Is the 50mm that popular anymore? I could see the 85mm 1.4 selling like crazy. I mostly shoot at the wider end and a Sigma 24mm Art or wider would have me standing in line.


Apr 16, 2014 at 09:14 PM
1      
2
       3              5       6       end




FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1      
2
       3              5       6       end
    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

Username   Password    Reset password