Upload & Sell: On
What a very colorful thread.
Dave, nice observations and summary.
Glort. Wow. Agitated much? Not to speak for him but I think Chezís point may have been that FM is a tremendous learning resource that does in fact help buffer the lack of years of education or experience for many aspiring photographers. Itís not just a place for well-established, successful, competent professionals to hob knob. And from what Iíve witnessed over the past three years, probably 80%+ of those who qualify for that distinction are happily generous in sharing their knowledge and advice. Thatís a key factor in FMís appeal and success.
Itís also a place where even very capable and accomplished veterans learn from both the superstars and the goofballs alike. Everyone has their story.
That said, are the most lame, amateurish (note the ish) offenders annoying to many and troubling to the market and those who take this business seriously?... of course they are. And itís going to get worse. But if weíre losing sleep over that perhaps we should have been $750K a year doctors or $35K a year social workers who have to be credentialed.
Finally, regarding the wannabe you so deftly disarmed over the B&B job. Well done to you Ė and to him. You both take shoe leather and electricity into account in your pricing, you just do it in different ways. Iíd bet a monthís salary 95% of the pros (by our largely agreed upon definition) would be very, very thankful if all the Craigís list wannabes did the same.
The fact he was apparently so overblown in his quote largely helped you Ė and your considerable experience and savvy sealed the deal. Would that every day ended on such an upbeat note.
OhÖ and no, I donít think the board needs a new name. It just needs more traffic, participants and business discussion. Most of that seems to take place in Weddings. It would be nice to see more photographers in other specialties sharing their business questions and wisdom here.
On that note, I have a big (and unexpected) opportunity to shoot a meadow with a lot of grass in it soon. How much should I charge?