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Archive 2014 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


I sold both of my D300 bodies to upgrade and I am wondering about getting a used D700-FX body or a new D7100-DX body. I am wondering which body would have the best quality for high ISO, and general picture quality. I shoot NEF with Nikon prime lenses without cropping. I noticed that the new D5300 has xspeed 4 processor, which the D7100 does not but the features set on the D5300 seems lacking in comparison to the two that I mentioned. (Where is the D7200).


Mar 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


Processor is for jpegs.

D700 any day of the week over the 7100 if you don't need 24mp.

Superior high iso and buffer and build quality.



Mar 28, 2014 at 04:29 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


jusbokeh wrote:
Processor is for jpegs.

D700 any day of the week over the 7100 if you don't need 24mp.

Superior high iso and buffer and build quality.


No way... The D700 is not better than the D7100 for High ISO, or image quality. The OP was asking about picture quality. And there is no question that the D7100 outclasses the D700. As much as I loved my D700 and thought it could do everything, time has passed it by. The D7100 has much greater DR and High ISO.

Hands down...

Jim



Mar 28, 2014 at 04:33 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


JimFox wrote:
No way... The D700 is not better than the D7100 for High ISO, or image quality. The OP was asking about picture quality. And there is no question that the D7100 outclasses the D700. As much as I loved my D700 and thought it could do everything, time has passed it by. The D7100 has much greater DR and High ISO.

Hands down...

Jim


The D7100 has the best High ISO performance of any APS-C camera but that's not enough to overcome the sensor size difference. The D700 has a 2/3 stop noise advantage for the midtones. For High ISO dynamic range/shadow noise the D7100 has a 2/5 stop advantage.



Mar 28, 2014 at 04:40 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


I know I could shoot with my D700 in near darkness. I certainly cannot do that with my D7100. Raw files have a great deal of strange noise in the shadows in low light with high ISOs. I currently use a D600 for lower light unless I need speedier focusing.


Mar 28, 2014 at 05:01 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


...and the D7100 has a tad less DR than the D7K I'll take the D700...to da bank.
Lowlight, no light...it'll AF where the croppers fail miserably. I've owned 'em all. Just sayin'



Mar 28, 2014 at 05:17 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


Even if IQ and ISO performance were identical, you'd get a different image from DX vs FX using your existing lenses. Either the framing or the perspective will be different, and the DOF. I'd say decide first what format works best for your use and lenses and then pick the camera model.


Mar 28, 2014 at 06:51 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


Honestly I'd go for a D610. Or buy a used D7100 until D7200 will hit the market. Definitely D7100 is a huge plus in IQ over D300.


Mar 28, 2014 at 07:22 PM
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JimFox wrote:
No way... The D700 is not better than the D7100 for High ISO, or image quality. The OP was asking about picture quality. And there is no question that the D7100 outclasses the D700. As much as I loved my D700 and thought it could do everything, time has passed it by. The D7100 has much greater DR and High ISO.

Hands down...

Jim


While normally I greatly respect your opinion, I must say, WHAT?!?!?

I have both. The D7100 stays glued to my tele for wildlife. Today I thought, ya know, I should really try this D7100 for other stuff. So I threw my 35/1.4 on it, shot all afternoon, and just looked at the photos in lightroom 10 minutes ago. I was really disappointed. I know I'm a D700 fanboy, but I own the D7100 as well so I'm going to try to see the good, but I can't for an everyday body. The IQ of the D700 is just leaps and bounds ahead of the D7100. The D700 photos have so much pop, smooth tones, and they're just so pleasing to look at. The D7100 is flat and bland. I was even shocked how often the D7100 completely missed focus where the D700 snaps into focus.

Technically, the D7100 is an amazing camera, but it has its place, which is not in front of the D700.



Mar 28, 2014 at 07:34 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


Thanks to everyone for your comments. Keep them coming if you would like to add anything more.


Mar 28, 2014 at 07:59 PM
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Jason_Brook wrote:
While normally I greatly respect your opinion, I must say, WHAT?!?!?

I have both. The D7100 stays glued to my tele for wildlife. Today I thought, ya know, I should really try this D7100 for other stuff. So I threw my 35/1.4 on it, shot all afternoon, and just looked at the photos in lightroom 10 minutes ago. I was really disappointed. I know I'm a D700 fanboy, but I own the D7100 as well so I'm going to try to see the good, but I can't for an everyday body. The IQ of the D700 is just leaps and bounds
...Show more

Well... hmmm...

I know what the problem is... you got to come out here to Southern California and try it again...



Mar 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


there's no way I ever would have traded my used D700 for a new D7100...but I do consider my D610 an upgrade for the most part


Mar 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?



I got both,D700 & D7100,D7100 already gone while D700 still stay.



Mar 29, 2014 at 02:16 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


jp80mc wrote:
I got both,D700 & D7100,D7100 already gone while D700 still stay.


Same with me!



Mar 29, 2014 at 02:59 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


D700 for sure, once you go FX, you never go back.


Mar 29, 2014 at 05:36 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


The only Nikon camera I've shot with is the D700 so I can't really help with your decision William. I'll only say that in four years of shooting with this camera I've never been disappointed. This is the camera that brought me to Nikon when I owned nothing else made by Nikon. I feel like an extremely lucky fellow that I took the advice of a photographer friend whose work is regularly published who was rather blown away by the D700 when it came out. Nikon hit a home run with this camera and like most owners, it is difficult for me to imagine anything that would replace it. Neither the D600 or D800 have inspired me to switch cameras. I'll stay open, but Nikon is going to have to find another serious winner for me to do so. Until then I'll simply keep shooting with the D700.

Good luck sorting it out...



Mar 29, 2014 at 11:29 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


I owned the D300s/D700 combo and loved it. I sold the D300 to be an early adopter of the D7100 and still like the camera. About 6 months ago I sold the D700 to get a D600. Although the build is not up to the D700, I find the D600 every bit an imaging machine as the D700 ... for what I use it for. I use both DX and FX as there are reasons to use both tools.
If you need fast, reliable focusing, especially in low light, then the D700 will do great. If you need to crop and shoot mostly in good light, the D7100 is hard to beat given its pixel density.



Mar 29, 2014 at 01:05 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


Every once in a while I zoom in on my D700 shots and frown a little when the pixels soon become evident (or I think about minimizing the clicks on the big boy). I look over at the D7000 (not a D7200, I know) and think I’ll pull it out next session for at least a portion of the shots. But when the moment of truth comes, something almost subliminal draws me to the richness of the 700’s images, spanks my hand and my little voice says “Don’t be silly” and the 7000 remains idle.

The only reason I don’t sell it and pick up another 700 is the stack of DX lenses beside it and the notion that I occasionally know I’m going to want/need to crop a little deeper.


Sometimes the product development planets and stars align and give us a product that simply outlives its normal lifecycle – and, cliché as it sounds, become hard-to-replace classics.





Mar 29, 2014 at 02:35 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


Kell wrote:
there's no way I ever would have traded my used D700 for a new D7100...but I do consider my D610 an upgrade for the most part


Hey Kell,

I agree with you 100%. I would have never traded my D700 for any DX camera. But the OP was using D300's, not a D700. He wanted to know if from the D300 should he go to the D700 or the D7100... that's a different question than would someone go from a D700 to a D7100...

Jim



Mar 29, 2014 at 05:12 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · D7100 or D700 for Quality?


I have the D7100 and also still own the D300. I also contemplated the D700 as a used option. I'm still deciding on the D7100 after 4 months of shooting with it. Every lens I own must be focus fine tuned for the D7100. It does have much better dynamic range than the D300, but I prefer the AF and buffer on the D300 for action shooting. My vote is - go for the D700.

David - a Colorado Nikonian



Mar 29, 2014 at 07:52 PM
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