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| p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · National Wildlife Refuges require permit for photography you plan to sell |
As I understand it, a permit is NOT required unless certain conditions are met. .....
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Based on your reply, I did some more research (found the thread you referred to on NS, or a similar one, then went off to various related links and documents).
I got some clarification on the issue, in case anyone is interested, here is a list of some related links, quotes, etc:
As stated in the reply above, but worded slightly differently, (regarding lands governed by the DOI = national parks, national wildlife refuges etc).....still photographers only need a permit when:
1. the activity takes place at location(s) where or when members of the public are generally not allowed; or
2. the activity uses model(s), sets(s), or prop(s) that are not a part of the locationís natural or cultural resources or administrative facilities; or
3. Park would incur additional administrative costs to monitor the activity.
(and other circumstances such as when the activity could cause harm to the environment, other visitors, etc..basically related to the intent of the 3 points above)
And this applies to any photographer, regardless of whether you are going to sell your photos or not. This is good news!
However, this only applies to Public Lands managed and under the control of the Department of Interior so it would not include much of the public lands for example Forest Service and State Lands which are also public lands. So I will need to research their own policies.
BTW, the initial place where I found this so called requirement, which prompted me to post this original question/thread, was what I found on a NWR page...this web page rather clearly states what I am talking about. Note the paragraph to the right side of the duck stamp image, then the text beneath as well. http://www.fws.gov/refuge/Columbia/Visit/Permits.html and so, clearly, the information that is posted on that page is INCORRECT given the particular wording and general aim of what they are saying, compared to the actual laws that are in place. That page was last updated March 4, 2014!
The official document from the government which covers everything (long and confusing) is here: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-08-22/pdf/2013-20441.pdf
And some related links, articles, blog posts etc
I also found that the regulations are more stringent for video...
*All commercial filming requires a permit.*
*Commercial filming* means the film, electronic, magnetic, digital, or other recording of a moving image by a person, business, or other entity for a market audience with the intent of generating income. Examples include, but are not limited to, feature film, videography, television broadcast, or documentary, or other similar projects.
This could easily apply to any video you take for the purposes of stock clips, or using in any kind of compiled piece which would make money in any way. Not that they would be able to tell if you were using your DSLR for filming vs still photography (and that was brought up by a lawyer in a comment on their initial proposal for the permit/fee system), but regardless, it *would* apply to DSLR video which you intend to use in any way for commercial gain, UNLIKE the still photography of the same intent. I find it interesting that they make such a determination.
I have not yet found the up to date official fees and info (for the rare cases when permits are required), but here is a proposed fee schedule from Aug 2013: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-08-22/html/2013-20440.htm